Phantom unread emails: Mail shows 5 unread messages, but there are none...

I've got four email accounts set up with my iPhone 4 (updated to latest software). Yesterday, however, one of those inboxes started showing that there was one unread email on the account (an imap account), but when I go to view the message list there are no unread emails there. And this morning, it started showing five unread messages, but again no unread messages were there.

The 'unread messages' don't show up in Mail on my iMac either (and the Mail icon in the doc does not show any phantom 'unread' messages).


Has anyone else encountered this problem, and if so, how was it solved?

20" iMac 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo, original iPhone, iPhone 4, Mac OS X (10.6.4), 4GB RAM, 250GB HD, 128MB VRAM

Posted on Oct 20, 2010 2:25 AM

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Posted on Feb 21, 2011 7:06 AM

I get this issue every single day, and it is specifically reproducible. Here is the scenario:

1) I have two mail accounts configured on my iPhone, one is my work account and is disabled on the phone, the other is my gmail account which is always enabled on my phone

2) Each morning, when I head into work I enabled my work email account so I can start reading my work emails for the day. This downloads all the new messages from the server and displays them as unread.

3) I read some of them, but not all of them.

4) Once I get to my office, I read all of the rest of my new work emails from the Mail app on my MacBook Pro.
EXPECTED: The messages that are read on the mail app are updated as read messages
OBSERVED: On my iphone, not all of the messages have their statuses changed to read. Some of them always remain as unread messages

5) Next, I delete some of the messages read from my computer from the email server altogether.
EXPECTED: These messages would also appear deleted when using the mail app on my iPhone
OBSERVED: Not only are the messages not deleted, but they are still listed as unread

The only way to resolve this each day is for me to select each message and view it for a second to have the unread message indicator removed. I have to turn off the mail account and turn it back on for it to correctly sync with the mail server and correct the mistakes.

There is clearly a problem within the iPhone mail app with retrieving updates from the mail servers.

I have an iPhone 4 running iOS 4.2.1 that I purchased in November. Before that, I had an iPhone 3G S and never experienced the issue on my 3G S. My MacBook Pro was used with both devices.
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Sep 23, 2013 7:59 AM in response to Mk Gonda

An Update - its all clear.


Have no idea what's different but this morning, all the unread email notifications are gone from iPhone.


I have to believe its either iOS7 did some type of "clean up" overnight or clean up on the host server side.


Whatever it was, glad its gone. Sadly, not knowing what caused it or fixed it, it probably can reappear anytime again so it may just be a temporary fix but for now its all good.


Cheers!

Oct 28, 2013 4:52 PM in response to bramleycox

Bramleycox..


There are two types of mail accounts: IMAP and POP3


From my understanding of POP3 accounts they do not communicate the tag that a mail item is read.


In other words.. your mail is on the yahoo server, if you go and look at it at yahoo and read through the mail it never will tell your phone, ipad, or anything else that this mail is "READ".


On the other hand when you open your mail account on an iphone or android or anything else for a POP3 type of account the DEVICE will remember what you have read and haven't because it was read on the device itself. (these mails in the case of pop3 accounts are actually COPIES of your mail and not the actual mail).


So... then later on down the road you install a major update. Since neither the yahoo servers nor the iphone communicates to the server that POP3 mail has been "read", when you re-add the account you will have all "unread" mail again.


I tried to explain that in simple terms.. but the simple point is - It's the nature of a pop3 account. (I'm not speaking of the "phantom mail" error, I'm speaking specifically of the situation where you re-add your account in a major upgrade and the mail is remarked as "unread").


It's how POP3 email functions. So, this would be why Apple hasn't addressed it.. because that particular behavior is expected and not related to the device.

Oct 28, 2013 5:12 PM in response to Callanfromnsw

Callanfromnsw


There should be no reason to have to reinstall your apps after an update.


I know it happens to people.. but it's completely unnecessary.


Before doing any major update you should do a backup, icloud backs up automatically every 24 hours or if you connect to itunes and back up that way it backs up every time it syncs.. BUT what doesn't necessarily happen automatically, and the step that people forget to do when backing up to the computer is to make sure to TRANSFER PURCHASES. The option is under FILE > DEVICES > TRANSFER PURCHASES.


You see, the device backs up every time you connect to itunes and sync (if you aren't set to backup to icloud) but it doesn't put apps / music / videos purchased from itunes into the backup.. that would be an incredible waste of space. Those are stored in itunes itself and they all have to be there when you restore a backup to get them back.


As long as every app / song / etc that you purchased is in your itunes library then you will get every one of them back..

Jun 17, 2014 3:38 AM in response to eggers47

Oh yes! This problem of over 9000 phantom emails has been confirming my views of Apple and IOS7 and their disregard of their users and quality control. Thank you for fixing a problem Apple obviously doesn't care to address for their users. Greedy, lazy and trying to control the tech world. Depending on cheap, or free, crowd sourcing to do their tech support. Cheers, V.

Aug 2, 2015 7:03 AM in response to jad2121

I was having the same trouble with the phantom emails....I have Yosemite....and, in desperation, after trying everything else, I saw this post and decided to try it. It worked! I have not had a single phantom email since. I have no idea why it worked or how it worked, but it is the fix that worked for me. Thanks so much....and I encourage everyone to give it a try.

Aug 2, 2015 7:05 AM in response to jad2121

I was having the same trouble with the phantom emails....I have Yosemite....and, in desperation, after trying everything else, I saw this post and decided to try it. It worked! I have not had a single phantom email since. I have no idea why it worked or how it worked, but it is the fix that worked for me. Thanks so much....and I encourage everyone to give it a try.

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