Final Cut Pro X

ubernaut wrote:
i dont think its actually editing natively in mts i think its just letting you edit during the ingest process.

About eight minutes from the end of his presentation, Ubillos says:

"you mix and match content without having to do any transcoding . . . *you can take in footage from your DSLRs, you can take in AVCHD, you can take footage from the GoPro, and you can just edit it natively*."

Sounds like it's native editing

I'm going to slide back into my hole now and pull the rock over the entrance again... see you in a few months.

Don't do that, tis about to get funnier around here. It's amazing how loud the whining and the gnashing of teeth is after only 1 day after a demo.

Maybe I'll peek into the room from around the corner...

David S. wrote:

ubernaut wrote:
i dont think its actually editing natively in mts i think its just letting you edit during the ingest process.

About eight minutes from the end of his presentation, Ubillos says:

"you mix and match content without having to do any transcoding . . . *you can take in footage from your DSLRs, you can take in AVCHD, you can take footage from the GoPro, and you can just edit it natively*."

Sounds like it's native editing

maybe but in the earlier part of the presentation the other guy talks about how scene detection/analysis happens while you are importing and that you can "edit while importing" i think randy was referring to the whole resolution independent playback stuff when he made the comment you referenced. that is certainly that is open to interpretation, as is the claim of no render bar. i sort of think if you went fast enough at some stage you would be waiting for render even if the interface didn't make it obvious.

Mindbend wrote:

Please tell me I can finally have my video in FCP look like my video in Quicktime and everywhere else on my Mac. Hopefully colorsync will fix all that.

you can already do that btw just go into your QT 7 prefs and enable FCS color compatibility. not sure if this option is natively selected or not in QT X player, but there arent any prefs there so hard to say without testing (i'd do it but i never use QT X player:P).

That's actually never quite worked for me. I need to revisit it to be sure, but I can never get it all to perfectly match even with the QT 7 pref trick. Thanks for the reminder though!

Typical "Pro" resposne.....

"THIS LOOKS DIFFERENT"
"I DON'T LIKE IT "
"I WON'T BUY IT!!!! I WON'T I WON'T I WON'T!!

Yep just like a 5 year old.

Way too much "whine" here....need more cheese.

Mindbend wrote:
That's actually never quite worked for me. I need to revisit it to be sure, but I can never get it all to perfectly match even with the QT 7 pref trick. Thanks for the reminder though!

NP it does seem that with the new color-synced color management it will be more seamless. I cant wait for FCX personally although i think everyone would agree the biggest question are regarding the ancillary apps.

Studio X wrote:
If the material is not native, I convert it before bringing it into FCP. Funny, If find using Compressor, MPEG Streamclip or other apps seems to be able to engage all cores.

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves ..."

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Even when the material is native, it can still take a long time to export!

I'm well aware that Compressor uses all cores, which is puzzling why Final Cut Pro doesn't. Especially when they are from the same Suite.

Apparently you never created a feature-length film, you're probably one of those 5-minute YouTubers if you never had a time when it took a while to export your finished video.

Eric wrote:

I'm well aware that Compressor uses all cores, which is puzzling why Final Cut Pro doesn't. Especially when they are from the same Suite.

puzzling maybe but compressor doesnt actually do any transcoding itself. it is a job submitting app for qmaster which has absolutely nothing to do with FCP rendering/exporting.

Apparently you never created a feature-length film, you're probably one of those 5-minute YouTubers if you never had a time when it took a while to export your finished video.

you know this thread had to turn ugly at some point. try not to be such a doosh would you?

Let's see. I quote Shakespeare. You counter with YouTube.

Humm.

"Feature length" Yep. I do 1 to 2 hour material every week. No problems.

It's not the stars dear Brutus.

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ubernaut wrote:
you know this thread had to turn ugly at some point. try not to be such a doosh would you?

He annoyed me with his last comment. Anyway, I'm leaving now. This thread is giving me a headache.

Umm, did I miss something? Everything I have seen leads me to believe that there is no viewer, no source monitor, no three point editing.

Why? Where is the uproar? This is more than a UI change. This is a fundamental part of editing, gone.

***!?!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!?

Gezzum. I need to read more closely!

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Alex Zustra wrote:
Umm, did I miss something? Everything I have seen leads me to believe that there is no viewer, no source monitor, no three point editing.

Why? Where is the uproar? This is more than a UI change. This is a fundamental part of editing, gone.

***!?!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!?

Not sure this is true. I believe I've read that you can have Source/Record...

Patrick

Alex Zustra wrote:
Umm, did I miss something? Everything I have seen leads me to believe that there is no viewer,

yeah that window seems to have been replaced by the filmstrip style thing in the "organization" third of the interface. i imagine preview now happens in what used to be the canvas area. two ways to look at that no doubt, myself i'd say glass half full till i get to play with it maybe it's just more efficient UI, i mean who's really ever looking at both the viewer and the canvas simultaneously anyway?

no source monitor, no three point editing.

Why? Where is the uproar? This is more than a UI change. This is a fundamental part of editing, gone.

***!?!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!?

i believe they stated in the presentation that they believe this new implementation of the imovie style precision editor is better then the esoteric conventions we are all used to. i wish the camera angle was better so i could agree :P