Lion OS X 10.7 and Quicken 2007

I won't claim to know why Intuit does or doesn't do something, but I would guess that the biggest problem of getting Quicken to run under Lion was switching the code from PowerPC ("big-endian") to Intel ("little-endian"). I've been on a project that had to do that. It's not trivial.

John,

I have demoed iBand. I would switch to iBank in a skinny minute IF they would institute reports on a level with Quicken. I rely heavily on being able to set up custom comparison reports. IBank's reporet ing capabilities are very limited compared to Quicken. I would LOVE to say goodbye to Intuit forever!

Steve

William Boyd, Jr. wrote:

I won't claim to know why Intuit does or doesn't do something, but I would guess that the biggest problem of getting Quicken to run under Lion was switching the code from PowerPC ("big-endian") to Intel ("little-endian"). I've been on a project that had to do that. It's not trivial.

Yet almost every other software company that writes for OSX managed to do it, even the little guys, even the big careless guys (like Adobe) managed it, are Intuit just not competent?

Csound1 wrote:

Yet almost every other software company that writes for OSX managed to do it, even the little guys, even the big careless guys (like Adobe) managed it, are Intuit just not competent?

Personally I think they just don't care. QUICKEN was QUICKEN then Intuit biught them years ago if I recall. Intuit's main business was Turbo Tax.

FROM Wiki:

• Quicken contains a sunset provision that stops online features and any QFX formatted files from working after a certain amount of time,^[10][11] requiring users to first buy a new Quicken license, and then to learn a new, often confusing interface to the more recent Quicken version.
• Intuit stopped supporting its Quicken software in the United Kingdom in 2005 leaving many thousands of users with only partially functional software.^[12]
• In 2008 and 2009 Quicken users reported an unusually large number of software bugs for a commercial product.^[13][14][15] A review of Quicken 2010 suggests that quality and user interface in that product year is dramatically improved.^[16]
• Existing Quicken Online users' data is not transferrable/importable into Mint.com. This is in direct contrast to VP Aaron Patzer's promise on April 27, 2010 that, "[Until the merger with Mint.com is complete], you can continue to use Quicken Online just like you have. Once we have completed integrating all features to Mint, you will be able to easily transfer your information and data to ensure the smoothest transition possible."^[17]

So kinda what they do, ignore and walk away from customers not making them enough?

I know they killed Mint and Microsoft money then there was just them for most part.

I also love how they " give away " Quicken new versions with Turbo Tax as a promo but ONLY NEW USER Version meaning if you are a good customer it is useless since can't import data you already had.

I am a very, very, happy IBANK user would never go back no matter what they have.

George in NY

Either not competent or not willing to staff the project adequately. There are lots of ways to make code non portable, either to a new os or to a new chip architecture. But doing so is short-sighted at least, and incompetent at worst. probably they are dealing with some really bad code.

Howdy,

Apparently some are reporting that this causes the older PowerPC (PPC) applications that are supported in 10.6 via 'Rosetta' to crash upon attempting to open/save/print using any dialog box, or fail in other similar ways such as simply not printing or quitting, or freezing/hanging/crashing of the application.

I have read of some companies that have indeed submitted proper bug reports to Apple, but that is not a guarantee of a bug-fix being issued.

You might wish to read:

http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/snowleopard/index.html#d02feb2012

If you are unsure if you are still using PowerPC apps, if the application is currently running, look under the 'Activity Monitior' (in Applications -> Utilities), or alternatively you could check in the System Profiler, Applications. Check the column "Type".

Here is a fairly simple way you can restore you system and restore you applications functionality again, if you don't have a recent clone or good Time Machine backup that you can restore from. If you do, restore from your backup prior to having installed the Security Update 2012-001.

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Time Machine restore: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1427

If you are restoring a backup made by a Mac to the same Mac

With your backup drive connected, start up your Mac from the Lion recovery partition (Command-R at startup) or Mac OS X v10.6 installation disc. Then use the "Restore From Time Machine Backup" utility. Select the backup prior to your issues, and it will be restored back to the state it was in at that time.

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If you can't easily restore from a backup, you can instead do the following:

- You first start by reinstalling your OS X 10.6.x, this will preserve all your user data, your applications, no worries there.

- Then install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 (links provided below)

- Make sure you're printers are showing up correctly in your system preferences, if not, re-add the printers

- Then finally, run the Apple Software Update (by pulling down the Apple Menu), and install any and all remaining updates, except do not then re-install the Security Update 2012-001. It is possible that you may have to reboot after installing some of the updates, and you may even need to run it a 2nd time to make sure that you've got all updates, except NOT the Security Update 2012-001.

Links for 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399

or the link to directly download this 1.09GB combo updater:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1399/en_US/MacOSXUpdCombo10.6.8.dmg

Cheers,

Daniel Feldman

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Good news!! Just spoke with Apple Tech Support. They have re-released the security update with a new date of Feb. 1. After running it, I can happily report that Quicken 2006 for the Mac prints again! I received the following:

Hello, Reggie thought you might find this article useful. We hope it helps resolve your technical issue. Security Update 2012-001 (Snow Leopard) Click on the link above or copy and paste the following address into your Web browser to view the article: <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1489?viewlocale=en_US> Best regards, The Apple Support Team This message has been auto-generated. Please do not reply to this email. It was sent from an address that cannot accept incoming mail.

FYI, if this isn't known already, it looks like Intuit is going to release a REAL Quicken that will work under Lion, a re-coded version of Quicken 2007.

Here's the link:

http://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/lion-compatible-quicken-for-mac-2007/GEN8 3769.html

There's a place there to sign up to be notified by email for news and its release. I think everyone who has still been holding out (or not knowing WHAT to choose) should sign up so that Intuit knows we really care.

-Troy

And I'd bet some serious money that this re-engineered Quicken 2007 won't be free either. I'm betting it will cost the same as Essentials does now.

Hey what the heck, if they get it out I'll be happy. I agree with those who question why Bill Campbell let this occur. He should've been looking out for both Quicken and Apple especially when you look at how Apple is growing.

The bigger question is what will Intuit do for on-line backup once MobileMe is discontinued in favor of the iCloud. I don't believe the latter supports Quicken backups for the Mac.

slbloom wrote:

The bigger question is what will Intuit do for on-line backup once MobileMe is discontinued in favor of the iCloud. I don't believe the latter supports Quicken backups for the Mac.

What I did is to direct the backup to a local folder (way faster) and synchronize the folder to my SugarSync account, so I get instant backups coupled with long term offsite storage, iDisk was mediocre on a good day.

I still run Quicken 2007 under Snow Lepoard. Quicken has a feature where you can save a copy of your Quicken files automatically to a local disk, every time you quit. I have DropBox. I created a folder for Quicken Backup in my Dropbox folder and directed Quicken to place a copy of the Quicken file there every time I quit the application, which it does. Simple. Off site backup that is not going away with iDisk.

I will gladly pay for a Lion compatible version of Quicken 2007 / 2012, whatever... as long as it runs in Lion and has at least the same features, including on-line banking, that the present version does.

It is going to cost the Intuit staff time to write the code, they deserve to be paid for it.

I just wish they would release it already.

William Bennett1 wrote:

I will gladly pay for a Lion compatible version of Quicken 2007 / 2012, whatever... as long as it runs in Lion and has at least the same features, including on-line banking, that the present version does.

It is going to cost the Intuit staff time to write the code, they deserve to be paid for it.

I just wish they would release it already.

Intuit have had 7 years to write it, 7 years since Mac switched to intel cpu's .... you can tell how high a priority it was from that alone. Take this opportunity to get away from the deeply incompetent and careless company that Intuit has become