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DO NOT UPGRADE TO LION!

Lion may well turn into to Apple's Vista. I've used Apple products since 1981, and I've never experienced anything like this. The so-called upgrade has so far:

1. Broken Mail and all it's contents. No obvious solution that doesn't result in losing all folders.

2. Time Capsule, by virtue of a complete new backup of the HD, eliminates most history as there typically isn't sufficient memory for the doubling up. NO WARNINGS. Just gone.

3. Applications that don't play nice with Lion (PPC apps, Adobe apps, Microsoft apps) are just eliminated when a TC restore is done following the upgrade.

4. Apparently going back to Snow Leopard is problematic, if even possible.


I hate that I didn't wait. What an idiot.

Posted on Jul 22, 2011 5:49 PM

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Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM in response to William Hamilton

DO NOT UPGRADE - I feel that I have returned to the ugly PC world I thought I had left behind. My 2010 8GB MacBook Pro has been nothing short of dung since the upgrade - reboots, freezes, Fusion 4 freezes, finder freezes, slow, slow , slow. I made a huge mistake upgrading when everything was perfect before - I should have learned this lesson by now from the PC world. Anyways, there is absolutely NOTHING compelling about LION to take the risk of screwing up your Mac and life.

Jan 19, 2012 4:03 PM in response to William Hamilton

Hi, Thanks for letting know! I just had a sneaky look in this discussions and was shocked! so many different problems and thousands of people reporting on them! unbelievable...I think people who say there are no problems for them thei either dont use their mac just look at them or are too arrogant to admint which is very commom between mac users. Ill stay away for a long time.

Jan 19, 2012 4:15 PM in response to Robert Hartmann1

I've got four Macs running Lion. No problems.

My two daughters use them everyday for schoolwork and all their social networking crap.


I use my two for work and school (one's a loaner from school), and poking around here. No freezes. No crashes. No slowdowns. I've only got 3GB of RAM in the slowest of the four. Still works fine.


But, I'm not trying to convince you to upgrade. Please, stay away.

Jan 19, 2012 7:00 PM in response to Robert Hartmann1

Those are view counts, not post counts.

The first one only has 77 posts.

The second at least gets to 1500 or so. Hardly thousands, especially when you realize that most everybody posted twice, if not more, and many of the posts are either suggestions to fix the problem or people posting that they don't have the problem.


Keep up the "good" work, though.

Jan 19, 2012 8:15 PM in response to William Hamilton

I'm really disappointed by Lion. I've been using Macs since 1989 and owned them since OS8. I've done every OS upgrade since then, including the changes to OSX and Intel. Sure there's always something new and weird that takes a bit of getting used to, and I recall Leopard having a few teething problems with wi-fi etc.


But this new beast Lion is making some spectacular mistakes.


First - Apple, do not assume stuff about the user. I may want all my windows to reopen after I have shutdown and restarted the computer, but PROBABLY I don't - if I was coming back to the same stuff I would have let the computr stay on and go to sleep. If I'm restarting it I want a nice clean beginning. Same for all those apps that think they need to reopen docs automatically - MAKE IT STOP!! Sure give me the option if you want, but it's a stupid philosophy to force this action on users.


Second - I like to know when my disk is going to fill up. I eventually found the preference to turn the info bar in the bottom of finder windows back on. Who is this OS designed for - Grandma? Which leads me to...


Three - iPads, iPods, iTVs whatever, are all designed for consuming content. Creative content, like music, movies, apps, games etc. Where do you think these things get made? Mostly by creatives many of whom use Macs. These machines are what we need to use to do the heavy lifting when we push them to the limit to create awesome stuff. But Apple, you're turning them into Nanna's computer by making them more like iOS. Content consuming devices, not content creating devices. Well I guess I'll need to get a PC to make my music yeah? That OK with you? If I can do cooler stuff on Windows then I can on a Mac, why would I ever bother with an Apple computer? Glorified iPads - is that all they are now? Shame.

Jan 19, 2012 8:38 PM in response to meteorite

Went against all advice in this thread and updated to Lion. Absolutely brilliant OS. I am assuming some did not read up about some simple changes before installing. Some didn't even make a backup. Great to see Apple moving in the right direction and seeing increased sales. Lion is so much more advanced than that last OS. Thank you Apple.

Jan 19, 2012 8:43 PM in response to meteorite

But Apple, you're turning them into Nanna's computer by making them more like iOS. Content consuming devices, not content creating devices. Well I guess I'll need to get a PC to make my music yeah? That OK with you? If I can do cooler stuff on Windows then I can on a Mac, why would I ever bother with an Apple computer? Glorified iPads - is that all they are now? Shame.


Personally, I didn't have very many “problems” with lion, I switched back to Snow Leopard because I felt lion was “dumbed down” and features were removed that I need to use.


Many people just switch back to Snow Leopard. You can do the same.


For us it was Versions cannot be switched off (decreases security). No "Save As" in many Apps, no Bounce in Mail. 10.7 felt “dumbed down” to us. We will try later, (10.8 maybe).

DO NOT UPGRADE TO LION!

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