What happened to Save As?

Hello Dennis,

CVS stands for Concurrent Versions System (yes, more users can work on the same files concurrently...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_Versions_System

You can find it here (or in every Linux distro) http://cvs.nongnu.org/

A MAc client for CVS is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cvsgui/files/MacCvs/MacCvsX%203.3b1/

CVS is now being substituted by Subversion (http://subversion.apache.org/)

Good reading 😉

News from PixelMator

http://www.pixelmator.com/blog/2012/04/24/pixelmator-2-0-3-is-out/

Last but not least, users who don’t get along entirely with the Lion OS X Autosave feature can now turn it off in Pixelmator by typing this command in the Terminal:

defaults -currentHost write com.pixelmatorteam.pixelmator "disableAutosave" -bool YES

TUAW (http://www.tuaw.com/2012/04/24/pixelmator-updated-to-2-0-3-better-memory-managem ent-more-enha/) says: "One final note: if you are one of the many Lion users who is unhappy with the Autosave feature, the company has provided a Terminal command that you can use to turn off that capability in Pixelmator."

Hi

I read into this a little more.

I believe this means there is no autosave only

and they have left in the versions, duplicate etc...

ie Save as is still not there.....

let me know if I am wrong..

cheers elo

Hi:

got a reply back from pixelmator

Hi Elo,

Versions are part of the Auto Save feature. So, if you turn off Auto Save you'll have the saving options as they there on OS X Snow Leopard (Save, Save As).

Best,

Guess I was wrong....

cheers elo

I am so used from other programs to have "Save as" so this really mess up my invoices. Imaging the same thing in photoshop?

Today I do a copy using Finder > archive > duplicate. Then opening the copy, do changes, closed it. Sometimes it is a box asking where to save and give me a possibility to change name, sometimes not. If not I write a new name directly on the file. This is the only way I have absolute controll.

Why on earth not number as an alternativ in export? Or a possibility to turn off auto save? Locked files....

This is a forum for people who have Lion and want to solve issues. If the solution to an issue on Lion is to not use Lion, then there would be no forum here to solve issues in using Lion. So that is never a solution to post here.

People who want to use Lion or have to use Lion are here looking for a solution to using Lion. This forum is about solutions, not telling people to stop using Lion. That is the childish solution, and therefore not a real solution.

35 pages of discussion and over 12,000 views makes it clear that this IS an issue for many people. Therefore while some people are happy with the way things are, not everyone is. These people are asking for a choice. Those that are happy with the changes, leave this forum alone and let those who want a solution find one.

Hi:

I agree completely with Steve.

I am not about to go back or across to the dark side because of this. I will find other ways of getting this resolved.

Have tried the Pixelator solution by downloading a trial version. Cannot get it working at all. I am in contact with a very helpful person from Pix... who does not understand why it will not work on my machine as it works perfectly for them. They are trying to get it resolved.

I asked if the download program is the same as the Appstore program. they say it should be the same.

I then modified the terminal command to see if it would work for pages also no go.

I have a copy of my system on a hard drive and use it for this type of testing. would not risk or touch my production system......

To those of you who wish to experiment take the advice from a long time software/hardware/operation person.... buy a hard drive, copy your system over then play with the test version. Every so often copy the production over again so you know you are testing on a clean working system... Never ever copy anything from the test system to the production system..... until you are two hundred percent sure and even them....

will continue the fight.

For Pixelmator to come up with this fix must mean it is important for them and many others like us must be contacting them.

cheers elo

ps: I also assume all of you already have a complete backup system available. It does not have to be time machine but a stand alone backup system copied over by Super Duper or others

Steve Maximus wrote:

35 pages of discussion and over 12,000 views makes it clear that this IS an issue for many people. Therefore while some people are happy with the way things are, not everyone is. These people are asking for a choice. Those that are happy with the changes, leave this forum alone and let those who want a solution find one.

Thanks for your advice. As an answer, I will ask Apple if Pixelmator is matching the rules.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 28 avril 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

Hi steve..

As you said those who cannot contribute in a positive fashion to our cause or commisserate with us by coming up with ideas to be checked out should disappear from this forum.

If Steve Jobs and apple had followed all the rules then we would not have had the Apple of today.

Likewise if every professional potter that I know just followed the same path then the ceramic world would be a very boring place. Every potter I know work differently and do not follow set rules. We need both within the arts and the business world people that are willing to stretch the boundaries and try new things. Would it not be terrible if we only had mugs without handles because someone decided it was simpler and easier without them as some of us might break the handle or heaven forbid it might fall off because the potter forgot a step in the process?

Hopefully maybe a better solution will be forthcoming to the SAVE AS issue by our work on this discussion. Already other developers are working and delivering alternatives. We are not alone.

Cheers elo

If anyone is interested in doing some playing around.

I have the feeling (gut) that if you look at what NeoOffice did, then Graphic Converter , then Pixelmator that the UNIX terminal command to turn off Autosave is there. I can just not get it to work on my machine. why I do not know..

will keep testing...

Elo

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

Thanks for your advice. As an answer, I will ask Apple if Pixelmator is matching the rules.

Great Idea Yvan. While at it, you might want to check what their opinion is on that Little Snitch app, I was always curious…

Re:

my previous comments on the Unix command . As these commands appear to be imbedded in the guts of OSX they obviously must follow the rules. Therefore I see no issues with us trying out new ways of using the existing software. However they could be withdrawn at anytime a new update comes out so lets not depend on what we come up with.

cheers elo

Kurt Lang wrote:

As an answer, I will ask Apple if Pixelmator is matching the rules.

Seriously!!?? Your response is to see if you can intentionally ruin another person's business? What in the world is wrong with you!?

I'm always serious.

There are rules to be in the list of applications matching Lion rules.

If an app doesn't match the rules, it's dishonest compared to others.

If the rules are violated by Pixelmator, it will be removed from the list as was GraphicConvert.

It will remain in the MAS as is GraphicConvert.

If they disagree with that, they just have to remove their extraneous piece of code.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 28 avril 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

raftr wrote:

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

Thanks for your advice. As an answer, I will ask Apple if Pixelmator is matching the rules.

Great Idea Yvan. While at it, you might want to check what their opinion is on that Little Snitch app, I was always curious…

One more time, you prove that you are unable to read carefully.

Little Snitch is not in the list of applications matching OS X Lion rules, more, as far as I know, it's not available thru the MAS.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 28 avril 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k