What happened to Save As?

@Kurt

I agree. Adobe luckily still focuses on pro users (those who know what they do).

Apple is targeting too much iDummies (IMHO). I still hope they will change their mind.

Stefano

PS have you seen the Apple Maps in iOS6? Does anybody believe Steve Jobs could have ever released such a piece of junk?

Well, it works on my 2009 MacBook Pro and my 2011 Mac Mini and the many people who have commented in the listed thread.

However, NOTE: STEP ONE must be completed on a Snow Leopard or Lion Mac and then the resulting Mac OS X SNOW LEOPARD.cdr image file can be moved over to the Mountain Lion computer and the remaining steps completed there.

We are still looking for a way to complete STEP ONE in Mountain Lion.

Hi: just saw this on OSXDaily. weird the instructions seems opposite to what I would expect reading the command.

I do not have Mountain Lion and cannot do any testing....

http://osxdaily.com/2012/09/25/stop-save-as-from-changing-original-file-in-os-x- mountain-lion/

cheers elo

Apple is clearly not run by idiots. There may be a degree of hubris, but there are probably other factors operating. For example, when, after years of complaint, the Find-by-file-name shortcut was reintroduced in 10.4 there was no cursor in the search box to let you know you had successfully executed the command. It seems to me that this was possibly due to limited band width... they can not do everything instantly.

There may be method in their madness. They are harvesting customers from Windows on the back of the iPhone success. It is possible that they are targeting the new users during this phase of the ML rollout. Limiting check boxes and choices might help stop a lot of new users getting in a muddle. Perhaps as bandwidth allows, and people get used to the OS, options will be returned to later versions of the OS.

I don't mean to defend them, just explain them, I'm sticking to SL, which is more than fine for the moment.

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Apple was run by Steve Jobs and did really well. Then it was run by John Sculley, the former CEO of Pepsi. During that time they went from a successful company to almost bankrupt. Then Steve Jobs came back and Apple became the biggest company in the world. Steve is gone and Apple is once again being run by idiots.

Steve, you're right about the history there, but I can't agree with you on the last phrase. Apple is run by some of the brightest, most talented, and innovative people in the country. You and I agree that OS X is taking some bad directions, and yes, a lot of things don't seem to have been thought through thoroughly in recent versions of the OS (the Save As situation being probably the most notable example). But having said that, I don't think it's productive to characterize the designers as idiots. And remember that a lot of what we're seeing currently almost certainly had to have been in the pipeline when Jobs was still running the company.

The entire board of directors thought the Apple Stores were such a dumb idea they refused to try even one. Steve Jobs had to SECRETLY build a prototype store and after getting it perfect then let them look at it. Only then did they say "yes" to him trying out with a few stores. These are the people still running the company. What idiots. Read anything about Steve Jobs and you will see that most of the people at Apple fought him to stop the best ideas coming out of Apple. Plus Steve was dying for the last 2 years at the company, so he didn't have energy available to fight these people. Every decision since he got sick (not when he died) has been bad. What do they call "The New Ipad" when they release another iPad. "The Even Newer iPad"? Or why is the iPhone 5 not called "The New iPhone"? They can't even get basic marketing right. Now the iPhones scratch, the Macbook Pro has a flex in the body because they made the aluminum too thin, iMaps is a joke, Save-As and Versions are stupid. Ok the new guy in charge of the Apple stores put staff on commission and cut back staff to save costs, then he did change his mind as moral dropped. But it shows he has no idea what made the stores great. Is there anyone running that company who has any idea of what Steve Jobs brought to the company? Absolutely no one.

Well, I have to admit—you've got a case.

And added to your list would be all the OS changes that have been made, and then immediately had to be retracted or modified. Apple never used to have to do those things. And don't forget about antenna-gate.

Donnie, I am writing an ebook about this whole phenomenon. The list of recent mistakes by Apple is huge. Let me give you an example. In iOS5 when I am away from the house I write and send an email from my iPad. As I have no wifi connection the mail program does not make a sent email sound. The email is in my outbox unsent. Then when I get home and I have a wifi connection the email sends and I hear the sound. Now with iOS6 when I send the email it makes the sound, even though the email is still in my outbox unset. Why change this behavior? From my understanding of human nature people need to justify their existence by changing things and saying "I did that change." Steve Jobs didn't need to do that. He would have said "That is a stupid change, put it back." Now there is no one at Apple who says that. So they make stupid changes all the time. This is a very fundamental change that has happened in the upper management of the company, and filtered down to the staff. Everyone who has any crazy idea now gets listened to. Upper management don't care. They only care about their share options. Therefore the changes we are seeing at Apple are a sign of the future, and not a one off situation to ignore.

Yes, useless change just for the sake of justifying a new version. I still think there is talent at Apple, but it's hard to escape the impression that there isn't a guiding vision there anymore. It seems to be all about rushing out the next iOS device for big sales. I certainly hope your book makes an impression because I'm not happy with the way things seem to be headed at Apple.

One of the key things that made the Apple Stores awesome is that they didn't push you to buy anything. Now they are being measured based on individual sales results. People have said that staff at the genius bar are already pushing people to buy software, to upgrade hardware etc. They have a guy from the retail world running the Apple stores. What would you expect him to do? Just what he has done in every other retail environment. Put people on commisstions. What made the Apple Stores awesome was that they are not like other stores. You could go in there and get advice and know that you would not be pressured into anything, unlike most other stores. "Think Differently" was the Apple motto. Well the people running the company now think the same as everyone else. My friend is an architect and he used to work on new Apple stores. Now they are planning to not put in the expensive awesome glass stair cases that Steve Jobs designed into the new stores. They are thinking about costs, not about products and customer experience. Hence thinner aluminum on the Macbook Pro, scratch easy aluminum on the iPhone 5, the list goes on. Now they are looking at what sells to see what they should be building next, not what people will want in the future. They have been innovative, now they are reactive. This is something that you see in their new thinking. Last time it took 10 years before they went bankrupt. This time I expect the same outcome. 5 years to decline, and 5 more years to die. There is no Steve Jobs to save them.

(I use these notes as the basis for my ebook, so I tend to write a lot here. Also I am really passionate about this).

Steve: re IOS email

I bet you have two different networks/supplers for your emails. One for your home base that is the WIFI and another one for your G3/phone on the Ipad/Iphone.

many of us had the same problem and it is easy to solve .(three weeks to find it right in front of me)

on the iphone or ipad go to:

-settings

-mail, contacts, calendars

-select valid email account

-goto SMTP (Outgoing Mail Server)

-select the server that is active

-in the outgoing mail server there is host name then- the user name (optional) this is not optional nor is the pass word (the two optional items must be entered

whatever you use on your regular email put it in and all should work..

it did for me.. I tried it several time to make sure. At first I used the wrong password. so try it out first... if you have 4-5 email accounts for all different stuff you must do it for each one.

the reason for this problem is that I use BT for host email and another supplier for Ipad/Iphone when the Iphone/ipad suppler sends the message to BT through my normal outgoing SMTP BT will not accept the message as he does not know who you are at that point the message is just coming from some other machine. Thus user name and pass word is necessary to identify the message as vald (that is you pay your bills)

this worked for me, my other half and several others I have passed it on to.

I can finally use public wifi at airports, starbucks, the local pub and send out messages instead of waiting to hear the whish when I get home.

cheers elo

elo,

We have no phone and no phone plan, no 3G service etc. We have 2 Wifi iPods and an iPad. I have updated one of our two iPods to iOS6 to test it. When there is no Wifi I often write emails. Like when I am at the beach. Then when I get home my iPod automatically connects to the Wifi and sends the emails. Before in iOS5 the sound of an email being sent happened when I was Wifi connected and the email was actually sent. Now it happens when the "send" button is pressed. But the email is in my Outbox, and has not been sent. When I get home and the Wifi is connected then the email sends, without any sound. The email is in my Outbox so I can go back to it and change it before I get home, so it has not been sent. But the sound has told me that it has been sent. How stupid is that? And when I get home and it actually sends? Nothing. No sound. Silence. This is a DIFFERENT behavior to what iOS5 did. Therefore Apple has made yet another change for no benefit, no purpose, which does something different to whatever was done before, and now creates confusion where before there was none. This is all done with a MobileMe email address that is now working on iCloud. So this is nothing to do with what you have talked about here.

Steve.

Steve:

I apoligize. I did not fully realize your situation. I just saw the issue I had been fighting for a long time and then solved.

I will not be home for another week and will not be trying any new software until then..

However I have never before installed os's of any kind until sometime after general release. waiting to see issues, fixes etc.

I think I will hold off with this upgrade on my machine but put it on my other half's machine (ouch!) and see the results besides the complaints from her...

cheers elo

If you rely on Google Maps then don't update to iOS6. The iMaps is a total joke. They have $100 billion in the bank and they couldn't manage to get a maps app as good as Google Maps was 5 years ago. It is embarrasing. Beyond that my iPad 2 (also called The Not So New iPad) and my iPod Touch 4th Generation (also called The Latest But One iPod) don't get Siri, so there is little reason to update. But lots of annoying reasons not to...