What happened to Save As?

This is not Apples fault, but I thought I would flag another dumb thing that has crept into the environment.

One of the glories of apple was always that you could name your files whatever you wanted. Now in Office 2011 it seems that Word can not open a file with a forward slash in the name. As a scientiest user I have many of these indicating a division operation.

Although I have to say that my transition from 2004 to 2011 was almost painless, which was not true for 2008, which was a bad incarnation of Word (ppt was ok though).

Something which is really annoying me is the disappearance from Mail of the little rotating wheel which used to appear against each account when receiving or sending. My connection here is very variable and frequently slows down. Without the little wheel indicator I cannot see what is or is not happening. It is particularly frustrating when sending because there is absolutely nothing to show whether there is any activity going on until the mail is actually sending when the bar in the "activity box" (bottom left) appears. Often I am waiting for ages before the indicator bar appears and I am wondering whether I clicked on send or inadvertently deleted the message! So why did they remove the wheel? What harm was it doing? And, if they had to take it away for some obscure reason only known to themselves, then why not provide an option to restore it.

There is an option to switch to "classic view" which one might assume would return things to the way they were in SL. But no, the wheel is missing from that too!

I tried "Mailmate" which is good and does have the wheel indicator but you can only use IMAP and not POP. I also tried "Thunderbird" but found it clunky and a bit complicated.

One of the reasons that I stuck with Lion is that the iCal program works really well compared to the Snow Leopard version. Plus I use MobileMe email accounts and they became iCloud accounts, which only work on Lion.

Now I have decided to stop using iCal and take my personal data off the iCloud. This was after reading about someone who had his iCloud hacked and they used that to wipe his iPhone, his iPad and his MacBook Air.

My wife is also thinking to get a new Retina MacBook Pro and we will use that for emails. This means that I now have no need for Lion. Which means... I am going back to Snow Leopard!!! I can't wait. As soon as we get the new Retina MacBook Pro I will do a clean install from the original CD's and I can end all this Versions insanity.

On a side note, I have one of our two iPods on iOS6 and the other iPod and iPad on iOS5. I will be reverting the first iPod back to iOS5 as I am just sick of the insanity of iOS6. So many little annoying things that are just so stupid. A mail program that makes the "sent email" sound when you are offline and the email hasn't sent. The stupid pull bown blob to refresh your emails. iMaps. I mean what were they thinking? The Gmail App for iOS6 doesn't let you see your emails when you are offline. Only when connected to the WIfi, even if you downloaded them to the iPod. What insanity is this?

When you revert to the old operating systems because they are better then you know that you are either using Windows computers, or Steve Jobs has passed away. Sad but true.

Hello Steve,

I installed OwnCloud (http://www.owncloud.org) on my Linux box at home. I sync Linux, Snow Leopart, iOS5 and Android for both Calendars and Contacts.

In this way data is in my house.

I hope it helps

Stefano

Steve,

I have just done the same. Only my new retina MBP is on OS 10.8.2. My old macbook (inherited by my daughter) is now back to SL, and my trusty macmini is also back to SL. Its great and after a clean install it runs really fast. SL is proving to be the XP of the Mac world. The difference is that XP continued to be used for years because it could be installed on any machine, new or old. Apple have become masters of "built in obsolescence"

Stefano67, Thanks for that. My desire is to keep all of my private data off any cloud anywhere. I mean having my data off any computer that links to the internet.

Also I have realized that while I have used iCal for 3 years of data, if I stop using Apple then I can't read that data. My wife is in the process of transfering that past data to a spreadsheet. Therefore it is "future proof." The same with contacts.

So while this Cloud solution is interesting, it is not what I want. I will be using my Snow Leopard computer for work, but never connecting it to the internet. That way I don't have to worry about Trojans, viruses, or people hacking into my computer.

I do a lot of backups, on different drives, on a daily basis so I know my data is secure. It could happen on any system connected to the internet. That is why returning to Snow Leopard and getting off the internet for that computer is the best option for me.

I still have my iOS5 iPod and iPad for reading emails and websites.

Read this if you want to know about being hacked through iCloud.

http://www.emptyage.com/post/28679875595/yes-i-was-hacked-hard

Mark, if your daughter needs help fixing the screen on that Macbook I might be able to help. It might just be a lose cable. I'm pretty handy with a screwdriver. See this video as an example on how to fix these things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZcy2KhxTSw

Certainly SL is the XP of Apple. I wonder if the Mini Macs on sale now in the Apple store in Kuta can still run it. That might make it worth getting one of them before the new upgrades come along.

We saw an older MacBook Pro in an Apple Store in Sri Lanka and we almost bought it, just to have something that isn't Lion locked.

Funny how two years ago you could trust every new Apple software upgrade, and now we are looking for ways to roll back to Snow Leopard and iOS5.

Now I have decided to stop using iCal and take my personal data off the iCloud. This was after reading about someone who had his iCloud hacked and they used that to wipe his iPhone, his iPad and his MacBook Air.

I was wondering how long it would take before we started seeing these kinds of reports. When I first heard of the things you could do with iCloud, I thought, "You have got to be kidding! You want me to use a remote server to store my personal data? I can't think of a bigger security breach waiting to happen." That's not all iCloud does of course, but that is the main point of it. Back up your drive and other data. All while being interconnected with every iCloud enabled device you own.

The point being that we see reports, it seems at least once a month, where highly protected servers get broken into and millions of customer credit card data, Social Security numbers and other personal data get stolen. And users still clamored to upgrade to Lion so they could use iCloud to risk the same thing.

When I told our French friend that I no intention of moving from Snow Leopard to Lion (when that was the latest upcoming release of OS X), he asked, "And what will you do when iCloud is delivered?" I answered, "Absolutely nothing, because I will never, ever use it."

Kurt Lang wrote:

... I thought, "You have got to be kidding! You want me to use a remote server to store my personal data? I can't think of a bigger security breach waiting to happen."

Sophisticated users such as those posting here would almost certainly encrypt their sensitive data, given that it is a trivial excercise. I use dropbox and do not feel at all exposed. The vast majority of users, however, will be mincemeat for a hacker. For example, my good friend who posted her name, address and date of birth on a public Facebook page and had fraudulent activity on her credit cards within 24 hours!

A person in my firm was fired and she gave her iPad back, forgetting to remove the iCloud account.

Until I discovered it, other people were able to read the messaged she received from her significant other through Messages. Embarassing...

If I did not remove her account, today people would still read her personal messages...

I agree that the loss of "Save As" is really irritating. I've been trying to get used to it for weeks and I still don't have a good sense for it. All alternatives seem to add more steps than simply "Save As." Which had the added appeal of doing precisely what it said and usually precisely what I wanted. Using applications that have not "revved" to the new menus are a pleasure in comparison.

I was also frustrated to discover, accidentally of course, that Preview will now save the changes you make without notice! This is probably even worse.

Oxcart, iCloud does not encrypt my address book or my emails or my calendar. Hence I have gone off iCloud. I read about how WEP Internet security took one year for people to work out how to crack. Even 16 digit passwords are being hacked. I have 3 different layers of encryption on my data. But once I put a message on Facebook or add an calendar entry or send an email, that part of my life is not encrypted. Plus someone used a person's iCloud to wipe their computer. Encrypted or not the data was lost. Now a good backup will stop that. I have 7. Two at home in different places. One with my wife, two with me, and two with friends in other countries. But I have take this next step to stop someone having the ability to contact everyone I know through my address book, know where I will be tomorrow at 4 pm and have the power to delete my laptop. And I certainly have steps to take to ensure that my backups can never be in someone else's bands who might find a way to hack into them. Steve.

I used iPhoto for a while, then tried the Aperture trial.

Finally I gave a try to Adobe Lightroom and it is GREAT! A little more complex, of course, but very powerful and FAST.

I'd suggest you give it a try (if you haven't yet).

Stefano67,

Thanks. I've seen Lightroom. It is way to serious for my needs. iPhoto for Lion became way to serious for my needs. I tried to email some photos and it gave me all these options to send the photos as crazy post cards etc. I don't need all that extra functionality. Email with photos in it, nothing else please.

I just want to keep photos in folders as I want them, be able to email them quickly, duplicate them when I want to and edit them simply if I need to. Plus back them up as files, not as an iPhoto Library.

Did you know that iPhoto keeps two copies of every photo you have? One which you edit and one you do not. So if you rotate a photo that is sideways, you have an original and a copy on your hard drive. Insanity.

I will stick to an old tried and tested system. I call it... Files. I will keep the files on my computer and manage them as I choose.

I do not want to find that every photo is doubled so the size of my backup is doubled. With 12 GB of photos that fits nicely onto a 16GB flash drive. If they were in iPhoto that would be 24 GB of photos and I would need to have a 32GB flash drive as a backup. Plus every time I opened iPhotos it would jerk violently, trying to manage all the events and photos in its interface. So I actually had a lower quality way of viewing my photos.

Files, a file system, a Finder program, and Preview (pre Lion) were more than enough for me. And will be again. Plus I am not limited to Apple. I can use them on a PC, or even a Linux system.

Files worked for 25 years, they are still the backbone of the operating system. Please don't hide that from me Apple, and take control of that from me. I am perfectly capable of managing them myself.

Steve.

Yes, Aperture too duplicates photos.

LR is different: if you adjust th ephoto (rotation, levels, colors etc) it applies the changes to the original file "on the fly" when you open the photo. It only duplicates it if you edit it outside of LR (e.g. in Photoshop).