About the little scrollbar arrows...

gripplz wrote:

I agree!!!!!!!

APPLE THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have still no bought them back in three updaes so mot look good now. but not go back to snow leopard just for them but would be nice if someone make hack one day

you'd figure with all of the weird tweaks that can be made in the terminal, that there would be a way to return the arrows by now.

The issue as I understand it, is that the Apple platform is used by an extremely broad range of people, from casual users, to many and extremely varied types of content creators working across a wide range of fields using a vast range of applications. While a large proportion of desktop Mac users, especially casual (home) users and content consumers, will probably do just fine by buying a USB trackpad, there are some who actually do need the option for scroll arrows in part of their precision manipulation of large documents. For example, in my opinion the horizontal movement of giant Excel spreadsheets is now just plain awful.

So, while the majority perhaps will do fine without scroll arrows, it seems wrong and arrogant to assume that all users must therefore not need them.

Or does 'Think Different' now mean that we have to all think differently the same?

As a Mac Pro owner with extended keyboard, scrolling mouse (okay for vertical scrolls but plays fast and loose with horizontal), large Wacom tablet and of course the stylus, I also don't want to have to now also buy a plug-in trackpad as yet another input device to take up space on my already cluttered desk.

Found that a company is working on it. Path Finder! the arrows seem to have been restored in the version 6 beta version! current version 5 they don't work.

hopefully this will replace the garbage finder and get those arrows restored.

path finder is a great app, don't get me wrong but it is sadly more expensive than mac OS Lion alone! :-)

the lack of scroll arrows is simply dumbfounding , along with a few more quirks and removal of features within Lion, I really am surprised that functions are removed from a modern operating system

I can only assume that sometime somewhere Apple will realize their mistake, it will take many people complaining over many months so keep the posts coming and provide feedback to Apple via the "provide feedback" menu item in most apple apps (apart from the finder doh)

infuriating but at the end of the day you can either go to windoze or become a linux nerd, there really are no other sensible options :-)

I agree with you, adream. The alternatives are Linux or Windoze. Or any pre-Lion Mac too I suppose. If this trend to turn my Mac Pro into an iPad continues then that's what I'll be thinking too. I will add that I love my iPad. But I love building new content on my Mac Pro even more.

Please, you nice folks at Apple: we're not asking that scroll arrows be made compulsory. We only ask that they be an option. At least until a bigger number of us no longer need them. I've loved and bought Apple computers for 20 years because I've loved making content in an Apple operating system. This is the first time in 20 years that I am daily being irritated by something Apple.

I Agree, I've been using Macs since 86 and this is probably the single most screwy interface change they have made. ****** annoying and really slows me down sometimes. That combined with the scroll directions makes it hard to move between platforms.

Just want to add my name to the growing list of users who would like to see scroll arrows returned to the Mac interface.

I would like to see a return of the scroll arrow buttons, but can't seem to get them to show up. Any way to do this?

I found a hack to get some color back into the Sidebar. I'v been using it for a few days now without any problems. The color only appears in the Finder and not in the "Save As" window 😟 ... But it's nice to have some color back. Sometimes I click on the Finder just to see it! lol Yu can find the SIMBL here and ColorfulSidebar here. It's a tiny download and it's free.

Yes, I use that too but take note any time you reboot then you have to quit and restart Finder again for it to work.

Hey I dont know if anyone knew this(I feel like an idiot, 'cause I've had no clue and I've owned macs for years!) but if you place 2 fingers on the trackpad and scroll up/down with both of them, it scrolls on the screen one by one.

Works in ITUNES, safari.....every program I have on my mac. not an ideal solution, but its better than nothing!

Yes that works well, but not everyone owns a trackpad, there are thousands of us who have to use a mouse to do our jobs and also people with disabilitys. That´s why all we´re asking for is the option to display the arrows when we need them.

Also it does not provide the level of precision required for many applications, and does not allow horizontal scrolling (but it is helpful for some applications so thanks, Gripplz!)

It allows horizontal scrolling on my laptop....!

I do alot of musical editing on my pro, and for the amount of precision I need, this semms to be okay.

But don't get me wrong, I would still like to see these arrows come back for my imac.....since I do not have a trackpad for my home!