How long will it be before the bugs in Lion are fixed and i should upgrade to lion from SL?

jamesfromvenice wrote:

A few thousand and that is considered good??? Most people do not complain and only a small fraction even frequent forums such as this. Consequently, for every one complaint that is reported you can expect at least 100 or possibly far mor who just live with it or seek help from a friend or relative. A few hundred thousand people with issues is not what I call a respectable or acceptable result, not on this planet at least.

You can kiss Apple's Ars until the cows come home but it will not change the fact that Lion is a disaster.

No one's kissing anybody's anything. You are just plucking imaginary figures out of the air, that's why no one is taking you seriously. Even in these forums, the posts are discuss between two or more people, resulting in a lot of posts from a few people. If Lio was a disaster it would have been recalled, so if you have some facts and figures to put forward to compliment your argument and even (Lord forbid) help out the OP with their enquiry, then please put forward the facts and numbers you have. Otherwise stop giving them imaginary information.

It is quite fixed, some configs still have some bugs, indeed some of them annoying or, anyway, unpleasant.

Do you have any specific problem/issue or is it a generic question? If a generic one, then nobody can answer it, not even Apple engineering, I guess.

Your history of other releases and the number of complaints is interesting. I have often wondered how other OSs fared, although apart from OSX 1, OSX 3 and 5 worked out of the box for me (I skipped the two Leopards).

Nevertheless, if the number of complaints is a very small part of the total Lions sold, as I think it is, I would have expected Apple to come out of their den and to have concentrated on those unfortunate enough to have really serious problems. The tiny proportion of cases would not have affected their profits. But, not a single appearance, to my knowledge.

Also, given the fact that PPC software would not work with Lion, and that most customers (including me, computer-savvy for 30 years) downloading Lion would have installed it before being aware that the software to make a physical installation disc had been deleted, it is reasonable that a company thinking of the customer experience would have mentioned these on the download web site. Its no use arguing, as I expect some would, that early adopters of Lion should have found that out (from where, I ask?).

The above two paras. seem to me to be the real criticisms of Apple. "The customer is always right"; "It just works"; "Out of the box" etc.

Methinks Lion is indeed buggier than previous OSs, I have been a constant macuser since the age of Mac OS 7.5.

But it also has some pretty parts—

Well, opinions may differ.

SteveKir wrote:

Also, given the fact that PPC software would not work with Lion, and that most customers (including me, computer-savvy for 30 years) downloading Lion would have installed it before being aware that the software to make a physical installation disc had been deleted, it is reasonable that a company thinking of the customer experience would have mentioned these on the download web site. Its no use arguing, as I expect some would, that early adopters of Lion should have found that out (from where, I ask?).

The above two paras. seem to me to be the real criticisms of Apple. "The customer is always right"; "It just works"; "Out of the box" etc.

I agree with you to an extent. Most long time Mac users would have been alerted to the future of Mac OS when all G4 and G5 support was dropped from Snow Leopard. Perhaps more could have been done to advertise the changes to recent Apple customers. Brand new Apple converts will start with Lion and know no difference (until the next OSX lol). A lot of us have gone by the motto 'beware the buyer' but others have been caught out on third party issues. It is only a minute percentage, and as in other OS's I think the next few updates will improve the overall stability of the system. But at the moment I have made a smooth transition and I hope all improves quickly for those with issues. No computer issue is a pleasant one.

Good Luck

I'll never run an OS that is so tame

afraid to let its user or its creator take the blame

sure, I need a computer operating system I can rely on

but not some miserable Orwellian electronic box called 'Lion'

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The screensaver it so BUGGY, and sometimes the mouse pointer dossent show the right pointer at the right time and places. Plus a lot more. So if i where you i would wait....!

XXRichXX wrote:

The screensaver it so BUGGY, and sometimes the mouse pointer dossent show the right pointer at the right time and places. Plus a lot more. So if i where you i would wait....!

???????????????????? On your system, which does not suggest a system wide bug that everybody has. It is more probably related to some third party program you have installed. Lucky you are not them.

Thank you for your tip

I find it such an inspiration

Like the way OS X Lion

takes over your information

(I like this game!)

Hmmm i cant see how a 3 party program can influence the behaviour of the screensaver setting, freezing my Mac even in the test section, where you are able to choose witch screensaver you might want to use. For me to see, then it is has to do with the grafix card not updating proberly, when comming out of sleep mode and such.

To the mouse problem, then it has been a problem since day one, and since my Mac is under 3 months old and i really havent got that many 3 party programs on my Mac i really cant see hw this should be the cause of the problems.

Welcome to ASC, Dick. Don't mind some of the locals...

XXRichXX wrote:

Hmmm i cant see how a 3 party program can influence the behaviour of the screensaver setting, freezing my Mac even in the test section, where you are able to choose witch screensaver you might want to use. For me to see, then it is has to do with the grafix card not updating proberly, when comming out of sleep mode and such.

To the mouse problem, then it has been a problem since day one, and since my Mac is under 3 months old and i really havent got that many 3 party programs on my Mac i really cant see hw this should be the cause of the problems.

Sorry that makes no sense. You may care to explain your problems a bit more clearly. Also, you were given a fix in another thread but never seemed to get around to trying it because, as you sid, you had been too busy playing your PS3. So either care about the help others try to give you, or stop whinginging and put up with your problem.

Thank You

Well ill try my best. :=)

To the screensaver problem, then it still buggy even if i only run my Mac with the programs that came with it. So for me to see then it cant be a 3 party program that causes the problem. But you can see more on my problem here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3436594?start=0&tstart=0

Have even tryed a PRAM reset, witch dident help.

To the mouse pointer issue, then it quite often happens in Safari, where the mouse pointer wount change to the correct mousepointer when you move the pointer around, witch meens that the pointer most often is in the shape of the "tekst" pointer, you know the big "i" thingy. And then you might think it is the webpage that have a problem, but when i vissit the same page with my other comps, then i dont see this problem, witch leads me to suspect Lion and i apps being buggy in some areas. Not saying that Lion *****, but i think that there are some issues that needs fixing.

mulligans missus wrote:

Also, you were given a fix in another thread but never seemed to get around to trying it because, as you sid, you had been too busy playing your PS3. So either care about the help others try to give you, or stop whinginging and put up with your problem.

Thank You

???......what do you care about if i dont do the things that people tell me to do, the second the post....?...is not a life threatning problem, so all in good time.

And to your information then i HAVE done the PRAM reset.......! So why dont you stop being such an Apple fan boy that dont want to hear anything bad about Apple and its products.....!