How to upload a document to iCloud from Mac?

MrTrue wrote:

.. Its impossible run professional operations and planning with this kind of communication.

That's the way Apple does business. They never "communicate" or anounce their plans for the future ( hence all the popular mac rumor sites - A lot of Apple's "cult" is based on this type of speculations ) .

What Apple does : They held keynote presentations when product X is ready , when it is to launch,when it is avaialble for purchase and there are a the naked facts of what product X can do. What it CAN'T do, they surely avoid to say. They also say "runs on Lion" "works best with Y" .. but they DO OT explicitely will say which machines and OS's are obsoleted this minute .

The pattern in Apple's presentations is : create hype, make people WANT IT . The negative aspects are then discovered by the users later, once they have "product X" in hands.

It was always so and this seems to not change. Steve was a brilliant marketing guy. Sure he teached this methods to others as well.

I understood that I would need to by pages for IOS if I wanted to use that app on iPod or iPad, but the fact Pages for Mac doesn't use iCloud is not obvious even if you do quite a bit of research. I don't understand why Apple has been so misleading in the marketing of iCloud. Right now, if you go to www.apple.com/iCloud it says "iCloud stores your music, photos, documents, and more and wirelessly pushes them to all your devices" and in the picture right below these words is an iPod, iPad, and a MACBOOK. Was I not supposed to think that if I put down the money and upgraded to Lion and the latest version of Pages on all of my Macs that my documents would get pushed automatically to my Macbooks and iMac. I mean it only says "all devices". I guess I shouldn't assume my macbook is a device...OH WAIT there is a picture of a Macbook in the freaking ad. Am I supposed to be happy with iWork.com. It is just a glorified idisk with the same dropbox technology. I am really upset because I was happy with Leopard and Pages 08 but paid to upgrade across three computers because this feature, which I believe Apple is misleading the public about, was worth it. I now have other programs that developers haven't got the Lion patch out for that are not functional. Now, when iWork '12 comes out I'll have to pony up the money to upgrade again. Frankly this bites. Apple knows people are upgrading and buying based on this same belief, unless they are ignoring the feedback, forumns, and articles.

Adding my voice to the chorus:

1 Finally took the plunge and bought my first mac last week (10/14/11), a MacBook Air

2 Major reason was to synchronize work documents with iPad, my desktop PC and iPhone 4S. Not sure how it would work with my PC and Microsoft Office. Assumed that Office documents could also be saved to iCloud, but would not have been surprised that it didn't work. But, I also assumed that my iWork documents would be saved to iCloud. This turned out to be a bad assumption, too!

3 Bought Pages for the Mac. Wrote a test document. Saved it. How to save it on iCloud? Don't know. Went to iCloud.com and logged in. All my Pages documents that I previously created on my iPad are there. But not the document I just wrote on my MacBook Air!

4 Went back to Pages on the MacBook Air. Noticed that in the Share menu dropdown, you can "Share via iWork.com ..." Ah! That must be how to do it, even though it wouldn't be automatically saved to iCloud, making this an unwanted extra step. And what did the "..." mean in "Share via iWork.com ..."? Nevertheless, I shared my test document via iWork.com ... But, as others have pointed out, the document goes to the iWork.com beta site, which is not at all linked to the iWork button on the iCloud.com site! So, there is no way to save it on iCloud at the moment. This is supposed to be seamless and automatic.

5 Not happy at all. It would seem fairly straightforward, as a short term solution, for Apple to simply make the iWork.com beta site a pass-through site into iCloud. No need to update Pages or Numbers or Keynote on the Mac.

6 Looks like Dropbox is the interim solution

7 In the meantime, burned through much time figuring out that iCloud does not work for iWork on the Mac, which means it does not work for iWork. iWork on iCloud is iBroken.

.. that iCloud does not work for iWork on the Mac, which means it does not work for iWork. iWork on iCloud is iBroken.

It works for iOS devices perfectly well.

And without an iOS device that has at least one of the iwork apps installed, you can not even activate the iwork section in www.icloud.com, so it should be perfectly clear that it is exclusive to iOS.

For your assumptions around Office on a PC : same non-icloud features as iwork on OSX. It doesn't matter if a PC,Linux or OSX is used : Desktop Apps can only upload manually their doc/docx/xls/xlsx/ppt/pptx files to www.icloud.com through a browser.

And iwork.com has nothing to do with icloud.com. It existed long before icloud.

I plan on calling Apple Care today about the same issue. I upgraded my ipad 2 to iOS 5 and have iCloud isnstalled and "set up" on both my MacBook Pro (Lion). Pages installed on both devices. Supposedly, iCloud "just does" synch documetns automatically, but I am not seeing proof of that at all. If I want a document on both devices, I have to email and open it. 😕

Ok, think I have this one worked out, not seamless by any stretch of the imagination, but here goes.

Create your document, be it keynote, pages or numbers, do not share it to iWork via the menu within the application, note I said DO NOT.

Open a browser window and logon onto www.icloud.com using your apple ID. You will see various applications including an icon for iWork, click this.

You are now presented with a window with your created documents on your IOS device if you have any, you will see a bar at the top of the page that lets you go between keynote, page and numbers.

At the top right it the apple cog normally used for system preferences in IOS applications, click this and you will be given an option to upload document, click this and you are given a search window to browse your Mac, browse to file and select the upload option.

Open you IOS device and then run the relevant application and note that the file is now there.

You should also be able to open any files on your Mac created in an IOS device by doing highlighting the relevant file in the iWork portion of iCloud and selecting the cog again and choosing download document, you are give 3 options for a pages file, pages, word and pdf (i have not checked the others yet), select the one you want, I selected pages and the file downloaded and opened on Pages on my Mac. Make any changes that you want and upload the file again, it then prompts you to replace the file on the IOS device.

I have done this and it has the document sitting in the iWorks folder in the iCloud.

I hope this helps a few folk out there in Apple Land and maybe, just maybe reinstates a little confidence in what Steve Jobs was trying to do. It might not be seamless, but if you follow the instructions, guess what "it just works"

Schtevie67 Fair play to you for working this out, but as you say it is far from seamless.

Personally I gave up on it. i,m now back to using dropbox, google docs, and gmail for syncing calendars and email. I won,t be going back to the ICloud very soon. Clearly Steve Jobs hands are not on this particular project. if they keep this level of service up, the share price of Apple Inc, will fall dramatically. I also have 25gbs of disk space that is almost useless to me, and they call that an upgrade.

Because icloud iwork has repeatedly deleted all my office files from pages,keynote and numbers I now use icloud only for Mail, Contacts and calendars.

For file syncing and storage across Mac,iOS and other platforms I signed up the free Sugarsync with 5Gb of storage. On Mac It is a idisk like folder , just drop all files to the "magic briefcase" and open this same magic briefcase in the iOS app; and it works absolutely great without losing stuff so far . And it supports sharing with outsiders per weblinks and albums/galleries for pictures too.

Apple should have looked at them how it works. this would have been "magic" "seamless". The clumsy icloud is very poor compared to that.

For me, personally, at present iCloud is working perfectly well for Mail, iCal, Address Book and Bookmarks. For documents I continue to use Dropbox. So it is possile to use both services without any conflict.

Same for me, just sugarsync + icloud . Whenever Apple has fixed their big black hole that ***** documents away, I'll be back. Having copies of my iwork files over at 3rd party servers can't be bad after all

Thank you, Schtevie67. What you spelled out above is exactly what apple care explained to me...with a bit of umms and errrs, I might add. I was able to see my docs in iWork, highlight and download. It is certainly lacks the ease and fluidity it claims to have, but it's good enough. I never used drop box, so I have nothing to compare it to.

NO.

Thanks...that is a great help.

So here is what I've found on this. First, it *****. But, I'm able to get stuff into iCloud from my Mac (sort of).

1) Save the pages, keynote, or numbers document to Dropbox.

2) Open the Dropbox app on your iPad or iPhone.

3) Open the file with the appropriate app from the Dropbox app.

Your iOS device will push it to iCloud.

To get the new changes from your mobile device on your Mac:

1) Open a browser window and go to www.icloud.com

2) Login

3) Select the tab for the iWork app you want

4) Download and replace your local file.

You might want to "Save A Version" on your Mac before uploading in the first place.

Not very seamless, I have to say. But, it does filter through Dropbox so you will have backups. If you "Save A Version" you will have some sort of change tracking, albeit not very good.

The biggest issue is that you have to keep track of where the most current version lives. It's pretty lame, but it works.

Maybe they left it out on the Mac to ensure we all buy the new iWork when it is finally released. It seems like they could have given us an update, at least, with the release of iCloud. Lame. Lame. Lame.

Aren't they killing iWork.com? If they do, I hope they provide a migration tool, although I'm not holding my breath.

-Brennan