Canon printer mf4570dn

Just got a canon mf4570dn multifunction printer. Supplied disk has nothing for Macs on it. I got the print function to work with the Lion driver, although I've been unable to use the scan function. I found the Scangear_V150_MacOSX_uk_EN download and "installed" the package, although nothing shows up after I get the "successfully installed" message. Any ideas why neither the Scangear MF or MF toolbox is showing up? Any ideas how to make this scanner work with my Mac?

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Oct 24, 2011 1:54 PM

19 replies

Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM in response to Community User

The ScanGear installer creates a folder in Applications called Canon MF Utilities. Inside of this folder will be the MF ScanGear utility. Open this and you can configure scan settings and initiate a scan. Note that to scan you need to press the Scan button on the MF and then select either USB or Network depending on how you have the MF connected to the Mac.

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to PAHU

Thanks for the very quick response!


Silly me, I was looking for the file Scangear MF the installer said it would install. I found the Canon MF Utilities folder and the MF toolbox. (why doesn't spotlight find MF Toolbox as an application??) I turned on the Canon 4570, pressed "scan", selected "remote scanner" (since that worked using the VMWare/Windows 7 software in my Mac) and launched MFToolbox. Got the message "no available scanner found. Follow the instructions in the Scanner Drive Guide to add scanners you are using."


I repeated above with the only other option "computer" (rather than "remote scanner") with the same results. So, what is the "Scanner Drive Guide"? How do I get it? Thanks for your help.

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to Community User

Hey! I just found within MF Toolbox under the first pulldown, the "network scanner setting..." Clicking add brought up a request for an IP address, and after adding the scanner IP, the scan function appears to work. How this relates to the "Scanner Drive Guide" I have no clue, but I can now scan with the Mac OS.


Let's hope this is not so cumbersome next time.


Thanks for your help.

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to PAHU

Wow1 When I opened the Guide all it contained was six cryptic folders and an index.html. OK, after launching index.html, wandering around for a while I found "Installing the Scanner Driver" which took me to the above "network scanner setting..." Nothing obvious about finding a "Driver Guide". Way too obscure...


Anyway, I now have the scanner working. It is connected via ethernet. I'm now working to get better image quality. A page of text copies just fine, but the scans very lightly. Shouldn't grey scale work as well as color? That's the next thing I'll be trying.


Thanks for your help.


Oh, by the way, my wife just tried to print a pdf file from her mac and of course it opened in textedit, which is one of the "applications which don't print with the current OSX Lion driver". She's not big on messing with stuff like this so she's back to the HP 2600 till Canon get the fully released driver...

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to Community User

Maybe this should be in another post, but since I'm about ready to take this printer back to the store for a totally new problem, I'll ask before going:


Is there any way to correct a document feeder that feeds paper in at an angle? I've tried different paper, adjusting the paper guides, opening and closing and gently pressing various feeder surfaces, but every time the scan is tilted slightly. It looks awful and is the reason I'm finally giving up on this Canon printer (probably all Canon printers, for that matter.)

Oct 25, 2011 2:26 PM in response to Community User

The first thing to check would be if it is the document feeder or the scanner array. Place a document on the flat bed glass and scan. If this is also skewed then it is the scanner array that is out and this would need a serviceman to repair. If the scan from the flat bed is okay then the problem could be with the pressure applied between the separation roller and the separation pad or the document feeder is not sitting square on the main body and this is causing the skew. There is no adjustment that the user can perform, so if no amount of opening and jiggling the feeder resolves the issue then take it back.

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to ahbrobot

On the plus side I was able to get the scan software to work, although if you read the above Oct 24 posts, getting there was way more convoluted than it should have been. BUT! The clincher was when I used the document feeder, the paper got mis-aligned and the scans came out crooked! PAHU proposed further analyzing the feeder, but I took it back. Enough is enough. Bought a Brother multifunction (they have a unit with no fax, which is exactly what I needed) for around $150, and the software was a snap. Wrote a polite, but negative, review of the Canon to Canon, and they rejected it. Seems to me they just want positive reviews.

Dec 12, 2011 1:40 PM in response to Community User

Hi sig,

Your diligent presence on these support boards is much appreciated. But both of you seem to be missing the fundamental issue with this scanner which is that Canon's software MF Toolbox does *not* work on certain Mac systems as attested to by many users on htese threads.


This screen shot should show you the frustrating circumstance many of us find ourselves in.


Consider this a WARNING TO ALL MAC USERS TO AVOID THESE CANON SCANNERS until there are a number of affirmative reviews of these prodcuts in these support forums.


User uploaded file

Dec 12, 2011 2:39 PM in response to ahbrobot

I think you meant to address your response to me rather than sig. I can see that you've had your rant about your issue on a number of threads and you are allowed to do that. But for the sake of anyone else reading this it is important to note that I am not alone in getting the MF series to work fine when scanning, both on 10.6.8 and 10.7.2. And I do not agree that I am "missing the fundamental issue". Yes, you and some others are having some problems with the supporting software on your system. But that will happen for some, generally due to some other application or resource causing a conflict and that is why companies have technical support and Apple has this forum.


If you want to try and get this product to work then I am happy to help.


So, I'll start the assistance by asking if you have managed to get the device to scan using MF Toolbox? Your image shows you using Image Capture and that MF Toolbox is failing. But I wonder if the same occurs when scanning with MF Toolbox. You can open it via Applications > Canon MF Utilities. With it open, click the Save button and with the settings you want selected, press the green Start button. Note that you have to set the Scan button on the MF to Remote Scanner.

Dec 26, 2016 6:37 PM in response to PAHU

I guess I'd disagree that ahbrobot or I were "ranting", but that is probably where we will agree to disagree. The reality of the Canon unit is


a) it came with software that was not compatible with some of the software supplied on every Mac. Canon acknowledged this and I know specifically that it would not print from Apple's Textedit. Textedit is not an obscure piece of software. It is bad form for any manufacturer to supply hardware and claim OS Lion compatibility with that kind of problem.

b) the scanning software, while it will scan through ethernet on a Mac, is, in my 24+ years of working with Mac software opinion, near the top in terms of poorly set up, clumsily organized software. Setting up a multifunction printer should be a one or two click operation - end of effort. For my situation there was no "other application or resource" issue. I've not heard that brought up before. There is really no excuse for Canon to have done such a poor job. (By contrast, I didn't spend 15 minutes total setting up my Brother unit.)

c) the only document feeder hardware I've experienced that came out of the box scanning at such an extreme slant.


Sure, solutions can be found using discussion forums, but I'd agree with ahbrobot that it misses the point to have to work so hard to make a multifunction printer work. There are too many other units out there that just come out of the box, connect, click on the "install software" icon and work.

Dec 13, 2011 1:08 PM in response to PAHU

Hi PAHU,

Here are three of the fundamental issues you are missing.


1 - We're talking about a different product. Do you own a MF4570dn? If your answer is "no" it appears you are giving holier-than-thou advice about other users incompetance about a product you have not even tried!


2 - You are not acknowledging the odd reality about MF Toolbox not being an application. Early on in this thread you stated this:

The ScanGear installer creates a folder in Applications called Canon MF Utilities. Inside of this folder will be the MF ScanGear utility.

But Captain Rocky points out one of the oddities of this software:

I found the Canon MF Utilities folder and the MF toolbox. (why doesn't spotlight find MF Toolbox as an application??)

Here's the reason Spotlight might not find MF Toolbox as an application. It's not an application! See the below screenshot. It looks to me like MF Toolbox isn't even an actual piece of software -- it's just an alias that points to a utility elsewhere on the hard drive.

User uploaded file


- You are misunderstanding the issue with the MF Toolbox. The issue is not that it won't "find" the piece of hardware. The issue is that the software is buggy & prone to instant crashes and complete unresponsiveness. Here are your comments.

So, I'll start the assistance by asking if you have managed to get the device to scan using MF Toolbox? Your image shows you using Image Capture and that MF Toolbox is failing. But I wonder if the same occurs when scanning with MF Toolbox. You can open it via Applications > Canon MF Utilities. With it open, click the Save button and with the settings you want selected, press the green Start button. Note that you have to set the Scan button on the MF to Remote Scanner.

Howefver, the issue is not that I try to use MF Toolbox & it does not scan or cannot find the hardware. The issue is not that I am not pressing the Start or Scan button. The issue is that as soon as I *open* MF Toolbox, the software freezes up and gives a now-too-familiar "(not responding)" warning. This software appears to have conflicts with Mac operating system.


I could mention more fundemental things you're missing -- such as the fact that my MF4570dn is connected directly to my computer via USB and therefore isn't just having the network related issues that Canon acknowledges. But I think the above is enough...


I imagine there might be some software conflict going on between MF Toolbox & another application on my machine. Sure I could try a clean install of my operating system, or spend hours methodically trying to figure out which application might be conflicting with MF Toolbox. The question is why? I imagine 90% or more Mac users -- especially those who do any kind of graphic work and have applications like Adobe suite -- would rather get a different printer than devote several days to make this device work.


The one piece of advice I'd really love from you, or anybody, is what multifunction you'd recommend other than this Canon that is proven to work elegantly with a Mac OS 10.6.8.


Honestly, I am wondering if maybe you are an employee or Canon or do a lot of business with them and are defending them for that reason? That's okay -- as I've mentioned here & elsewhere, this multifunction device seems to be a laudable product. But just as clearly doesn't seem to work correctly on some Mac platforms as many users have reported.


Thanks


Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM in response to ahbrobot

In reply;


The MF4570 and MF4580 are the same series. It's like saying a MacBook Pro 13" vs a MacBook Pro 15". While there are some minor physical differences between the two models, they still use the same software and it is the software that you have the issue with. I doubt it is the machine causing the issue. I could be wrong, but with Toolbox crashing then my instinct would suggest that you have something on your Mac that is conflicting with the MF Toolbox software and that is why it crashes. Because if you have this software on a clean install of 10.6.8, as I have been using, then it works.


Your second point is an interesting attempt to justify something, not sure what however. MF Toolbox is software that gets installed on your Mac. It is there to provided the means to scan a document from the machine. Some would say that is an application because you can interact with it directly but the same applies to a utility. And the alias pointing to its real location on the hard drive does not change how it functions or what it should be called. Maybe the alias in Applications is just to make it easy to locate?


Regardless of where the application is located the issue for you is that it does not always open, and I would say that this is the first time you have detailed this issue, which is what I wanted to know. So if you wanted to persist with trying to get it to function then removing the software and its supporting plugins would be the first step. If you want to do this then let me know and I will give you the steps.


But given your experience with this product I would say get rid of it and Canon from your life. I am a long time user of Canon products on Mac OS - in the home and at the office - and have found them to work fine for me. But if you cannot get this machine to work then don't persist with it. If you feel they make crap software, then even if we did manage to get it working, you will always have this distrust of the product. So with that in mind I would recommend you look at Brother, as they have often received good reviews on the forums for OS X. Don't know of a particular model that would match what you have but their web site is good for finding specifications.


Good luck.

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