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mountain lion ethernet not working mac pro 2010

Just upgraded my 2010 12core mac pro to mountain lion and now none of my ethernet connections work!!!

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Posted on Jul 25, 2012 1:52 PM

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Sep 20, 2012 11:12 AM in response to mart30lon

Ive kept from replying in this thread (other than my original post regarding the problems with 802.3 in a mac pro) but I feel the need to reply so someone else reading it may not be as misguided as some of those posting here.


1) Let me get this straight.. I have a mac pro dual xeon processor machine from Early 2009 and I should be mad at apple for having a problem (notice I didnt say NOT SUPPORTED) with 802.3ad right out of the box with Mountain Lion here in Q4 2012? Is that correct? People are up in arms over something almost 4 years old? This is the computer industry were talking about. 4 years in this industry is like cat years.....Yet they fix it within a month and some of us are still screaming at the top of our lungs and switching to P.C's?

WOW, reminds me of when my 6 year old kid doesent get what she wants and covers her ears because she doesent want to hear the truth. The truth is we have hardware from 2009, Apple tries to include as much prior hardware as they can but they are bound to have a issue with some of it. You should be happy they include it at all! Yes, apple has dropped the ball on the mac pro line, cant blame them too much, like everything else in life, money talks, and the mac pro segment is small. Am I happy about it? No, but im not bad mouthing them and switching to windows because they didnt release a new mac pro in the last few years. They are refreshing the line in Q1 2013. Be happy for that. Why are you so suprised your new overclocked windows machine with a 4GB video card outperforms your mac pro? Thats like comparing the original xbox to the xbox 360.


2) Not sure how they do things in othe parts of the world, but in the US, specifically southern california, nobody in the film industry is using a macbook pro for editing. As for software, not sure what you mean by outdated open GL support. On the windows platform, there is a system version of Open GL and driver version, the latter which is released by the video card mfg. In OSX, its just a system version, not a drvier dependent version. Last I heard, OSX supported open gl 3.2. Is this not compatible with whatever software your using in OSX?


3) I wouldnt use adobe products if I had to, photoshop has to be the most oversold, over pushed piece of junk software in the industry. Adobe wants you to think you cant be a photographer without it. LOL, OK, keep pushing photoshop with kelby as your spokesperson and telling me how bad I need it if i want to be successful. (roll eyes) The rest of their bloatware isnt any better. Whats adobe reader up to nowdays? 50mb? LOL, TO READ A PDF FILE? AHAHAHAH

Also, who in their right mind would ever want anything to do with a company like adobe with their draconian anti-piracy activation (I love having a message pop up in a adobe product on a LAN when more than 2 machines have it running and the chair in front of the pc is empty, (ie no more than 2 people are using the software). Thats a great time waster adobe! Or how about their tantrum on flash? They badmouth apple about not supporting flash and touting html5 (which is the right thing to do since HTML is the direction we SHOULD be heading) yet Adobe changes stance 6 months later when they realize the backlash against flash is a losing battle. And don't even get me started about the trial software (mcafee, google, etc) they try to push on you when you install flash, air, or shockwave. What a joke. Maybe instead of being so greedy they should concentrate on patches for their software and all the bugs in it.


4) Yes, FCPX isnt the cat's meow, but you can still do what I as well as others in hollywood do, <GASP> USE FCP 7! Or if you love pc's so much, go buy AVID and get trained on that.


5) Have fun with windows, ive been using a pc since the Kaypro days in the early 80's when I was 9 years old and can tell you from years of experience, your productivity will go down with windows over OSX. It's a simple fact that gets proven every day. And yes, i still work and administer both platforms as a network engineer as well as my side company installing CCTV IP camera systems so im using windows on a daily basis, although im happy to say while both my mac pro and macbook pro both use bootcamp with with win7 64x pefectly fine, im still in OSX 99% of the time.


6) As far as SAMBA, try to use AFP on your LAN when possible, its faster than SMB and most NAS box's support it. If your in a mixed enviorment, (eg, OSX, Windows) then yes, you need to use SMB, but not sure why people here need to use 3rd party samba software, I havent ran into a LAN or WAN yet that its required. If you really need speed look into iSCSI, much faster than either, and simple to setup.

Sep 20, 2012 12:03 PM in response to What2be1

And here comes the fanboy.... Wondered when they would show up... Your just blabbering with no real knowledge what so ever


1) It was the drivers for the ethernet cards in some machines that were left out the build, and quite rightly that has caused a lot of issues for users and they are annoyed. My mac pros are 2010 12 core models so should still be supported especially seeing the price they are sold for! Been a lot longer than a month... Get a calender... They are not refreshing the mac pro until Q4 2013... (Go read your fan boy posts a little harder...) By which time the pro market will have moved on.


2) We are not talking about the film industry... Typical fanboy... You have no idea... Read carefully before you jump on your high horse... We are a motion graphics company and the Open GL 4.1 is used by windows in C4D. On the mac side it barely supports 2.1 in lion. We haven't been able to upgrade to Mountain Lion because of the stated networking issues... Samba implementations...


3) Some of us have no choice but to use Adobe products, after effects is an essential tool for thousands of motion graphic professionals. To leave an essential feature like being able to export quicktimes over a network has created nothing havoc for everyone. Apple know about this and haven't fixed it in 2 years... Not strike you as slightly slack? Adode aren't permitted to repair Apple's API's due to licensing... Again your wrong...


4) The point about how bad FCPX is was made to illustrate Apple's general disinterst in the pro market now. Again you have missed the point... I know you guys have only been speaking English for around 200 years... But please keep up..


5) Wow... You are a pro... You install CCTV camera systems... Dude please.... What exactly is your knowledge of the industry we have been discussing then? You have no idea what C4D is... You have no idea what After Effects is... They both run better on windows as they fully use the Cuda cores and Open GL 4.1 which windows fully supports! I'm no fan of windows but the facts are the facts my friend!


6) The windows and linux boxes we use have to use smb as the render systems and apps we use rely on it. Did you even know Apple added their own smb protocal to lion? It's broken os x server? It's another example of Apple's obsession with closing their os... Everyone else uses the open source SMB code but they have to be special... Implementing a badly coded pile of crap. Again you piping up about something to which you have bare bones knowledge...


You have absolutely no basis for any of your points of view... At least if your going to be a fanboy... Get it right man... I have used Apple products for 20 years in a professional capacity. The facts are there for any of us to see.. Apple is now a consumer electronics company. Which is fine... Just don't be offended when thats pointed out to you and your fanboy friends...


Your not a pro creative user so I don't even know why your bothering to vent....

Sep 20, 2012 12:27 PM in response to mart30lon

Fanboy? Hardly, but glad your so hip on terms from 2005. And to answer your questions.


1) OMG, they left out drivers for your 2010 machine? The horror. What kind of time frame are we talking? Mountain lion was released on July 25, your first post was on July 25 and they fixed it September 20th. Last time I checked that was less than a month. Also, are your telling me you upgraded your business critical network the day a new OS was released? You have got to be kidding me. Any professional network admin knows that you NEVER upgrade until you are FULLY aware all your apps and hardware will work correctly, which is usually 6 months to a year after the OS release. Has there ever been a OS release in the history of OSX or Windows where they got it right the first time? NO!, so its clear your simply a novice when it comes to being a network admin. You do better at name calling than you do with common sense.


2) no comment


3) No choice but to use Adobe? Really? Wow, Red Giant went out of business? Whjat about Blender? Motion? Or do those not count since Adobe doesent make them?


4) Maybe they are abandoning the pro market, but it sure seems people still use FCP 7 every day still. They just don't need the latest and greatest I guess


5) If you would re-read my post, I said its my other side business, im a network admin and clearly have the common sense not to upgrade a network the day a new OS is released.


6) Apple has used their own proprietary version of samba and it is what it is, like I said to your sidekick in a post, nobody is transferring 2gb files using SMB when their are alternatives like iSCSI to do the same thing much faster.


Your right, im not a creative pro user, as its a poorly paid position and cant see myself sitting in a chair 10 hours a day. Have fun though!

Sep 20, 2012 12:37 PM in response to mart30lon

Really? LACP is not link aggregation, although that is part of the LACP protocol. Another part of LACP is failover using multiple nics. Im assuming you mean 802.3ad which is teaming. 200mb/sec? Well, i was assuming you actually are on a wan, as most production companies are. And even if everything is in house and you dont have the need to share to a client outside the LAN, yes iSCSI to a single server from 40 machines is possible, go look at Studio networks or ATTO. Dont point fingers where you shouldnt. And if you need that much bandwidth why are you wasting your time on osx server? Why arent you on 10gb servers and workstations?

Sep 20, 2012 12:44 PM in response to What2be1

You really are quite ignorant aren't you...


Did I say I upgraded our whole network on day one? And Mountain Lion was released to you in July... We had the developer preview long before that and pointed out the issues!


No comment... That's about right... Your learning...


Red Giant? They make plug ins... Not a compositing and animation app... Motion is amateur hour app you'd like it and Blender is a 3D app... Could you look anymore foolish right now?


Not a long term answer FCP7 is it? Here's one to stick in your fanboy scrapbook "Autodesk Smoke". Check it out you can impress all your mates with your new found knowledge...


Only a retard would try to use iSCSi to network machines to a server...


It would be a low paid job for you, your not right in the head! The rest of us do quite nicely thank you... More ignorance... Since when are creatives poorly paid?

Sep 20, 2012 12:58 PM in response to mart30lon

You have contributed nothing to this conversation except your negativity toward apple, and i didnt look up anything in wikipedia. Your so uninformed its pitiful. Stick to that side of the ocean, we have enough ignorant people already here. I dont claim to be a creative professional, I simply was thinking of things ive used that compare to AE. And yes, creatives are horribly paid, unless you consider 100-150k a year good, which I don't.

Sep 20, 2012 9:25 PM in response to mart30lon

Let's hold a small straw poll...


Who thinks which is a smarter solution to repairing the smb issues...


A) install a free piece of shareware which means the issue is fixed instantly on your existing Ethernet based network which most people already have? Cost £0


B) introduce an expensive 10gb iSCSi based network solution which unless your editing multiple HD streams from your server in completely unnecessary and costly? Cost £1000's


I'm glad your client is a billion dollar company, because with an idiot like you running their IT and paying yourself

200k a year... They would go bust!!!

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