Why two Send boxes in Mail App ?

Bomiboll wrote:

That Sent Message folder which is absolutely useless since it does not display the recipient at all
It displays only the sender which is me, a completely redundant information

Mail >> View >> Attributes. Untick From.

Barney-15E wrote:

It's not really a "second" Sent mailbox. It is Gmail's primary sent mail, but bomiboll doesn't seem to want to tell Mail to use it as sent mail.

"I do not think it works the way that you think it works"?

(With apologies to William Goldman & Andre the Giant)

Barney-15E wrote:

It's not really a "second" Sent mailbox. It is Gmail's primary sent mail, but bomiboll doesn't seem to want to tell Mail to use it as sent mail.

True, it's not a second sent mail, techinically the "sent mail" that Mail.app gives you is a COPY of the "sent mail" that Gmail gives you. So all you get from these boxes is a duplicate of every email you ever sent. Same thing with inbox. Mail gives you an inbox for ALL your accounts as well as inboxes for separating your accounts. Then you can also access "all mail" under the Gmail section. You are just accessing copies of all the mail.

You CANNOT choose NOT (you don't have a choice) to use "sent mail" (under Gmail) as the sent mail folder because all your sent emails end up saved there by Gmail. The choice mail gives you is the SERVER from which you send your mail (which is basically always smtp.gmail.com).

Hope this clarifies a little.

You can choose not to use the Gmail smtp server. You could, for instance, use the one provided by your ISP. In this situation, there would be nothing in the Gmail Sent folder, but there would be content in the Mail Sent folder. Google advise against this.

You can take a screenshot with your cursor in the selected area (you have to capture the whole screen and then crop it to the area you actually need).

The two boxed selected below are the same, just that one is created by Gmail and read by Mail, and the other is created by Mail and contain data from Gmail.

Also (since I forgot to mention in my earlier post), back to original question, as I feel we have gone a little off track:

Bomiboll wrote:

I sometimes get confused: where is my sent mail ? there are two Sent boxes.
One under Mailboxes and one under Gmail

I never know when the sent mail appears on one or the other.

Your sent mail goes in BOTH of the mailboxes. "Sent Mail" under "Mailboxes" is created by Mail, and "Sent Mail" under "Gmail" is created by Gmail, but they have the same content.

Arc676 wrote:

Your sent mail goes in BOTH of the mailboxes. "Sent Mail" under "Mailboxes" is created by Mail, and "Sent Mail" under "Gmail" is created by Gmail, but they have the same content.

No, that's incorrect. The Sent mailbox created by Gmail contains the mail sent by Gmail, the mailbox created by Mail does not UNLESS the Gmail created mailbox has been mapped to the Mail created mailbox using the "Use This Mailbox For" command.

Yes, the option will be grayed out if you select the mailbox inside the Sent "unified" mailbox.

If you select the Gmail Sent Mail mailbox, can you tell Mail to use it for Sent?

Daniel Ebeck wrote:

Barney-15E wrote:

It's not really a "second" Sent mailbox. It is Gmail's primary sent mail, but bomiboll doesn't seem to want to tell Mail to use it as sent mail.

"I do not think it works the way that you think it works"?

(With apologies to William Goldman & Andre the Giant)

No, it really does.

See the Macworld article I linked long ago. It uses the Drafts as an example, but the same can be done for Sent Mail and Trash. That command "links" the Mail folders with the Gmail folders and combines them into the unified Mailboxes.

See, no Sent Mail, no Drafts, No Trash under my Gmail header:

Bomiboll wrote:

"If you select the Gmail Sent Mail mailbox, can you tell Mail to use it for Sent?"

Yes I can But the result is not what I want which I explained in previous mails (there is a problem with From/ To sorting)

You can alter the fields and thus the sorting by changing the attributes in the View menu, as detailed earlier.

For millions of users Gmail and Mail work fine, the only difference between them and you, is you. Once more I suggest that you choose a simpler email provider.