Why two Send boxes in Mail App ?
I sometimes get confused: where is my sent mail ? there are two Sent boxes.
One under Mailboxes and one under Gmail
I never know when the sent mail appears on one or the other.
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I sometimes get confused: where is my sent mail ? there are two Sent boxes.
One under Mailboxes and one under Gmail
I never know when the sent mail appears on one or the other.
Did you read step 2 in the first linked article?
Step 2. Assign mailbox functions
You should assign the correct mailbox function for Drafts, Sent Mail, and Trash. Starting with Drafts, click on the Drafts folder/label under your email account name—then go to the Mailbox menu and select “Use this Mailbox for” and select Drafts. Then do the same for Sent Mail and Trash, carefully selecting the corresponding function.
Barney , I have done that many times and the problems persist
I am not using Mail any more, until next generation OS which I hope will improve on this
Until then the subject should go sleeping.
It is just unbeleivable that you and the others do not admit that we have a serious problem here
It is just unbeleivable that you and the others do not admit that we have a serious problem here
We do not have a problem. You have a problem. Mail and Gmail work fine together having followed the advice in the articles I posted, and the ones you posted. You can see from the difference between your screen shots and mine, I have "moved" the Gmail "labels" up to their respective positions in the unified mailboxes by following exactly what it states in the above articles.
Bomiboll wrote:
Barney , I have done that many times and the problems persist
I am not using Mail any more, until next generation OS which I hope will improve on this
Until then the subject should go sleeping.
It is just unbeleivable that you and the others do not admit that we have a serious problem here
Speaking for myself here I am tired of your insinuation that I am lying about Gmail and the way it works with Mail. So far you have failed to post anything relevant to your position.
Barney is right, you have a problem, the rest of us don't.
As you see - there is no "Use This Mailbox For" option, but it is found in the Mailbox menu
If you would choose from there the option Use This mailbox for Sent, the Sent Mail folder will not disappear. It will move just below the Deleted Messages. So it does not work.
All Mails is there, I do not want to hide it since I would like it to mirror the All Mail in Gmail but it seems not to do that.
Then there is the Deleted Messages folder. I don't understand where it comes from or why it is needed when I have Trash
If you write Gmail into the field IMap Path Prefix, the Gmail section will disappear. Why ?
Therefore I do not writhe Gmail here.
Bomiboll wrote:
As you see - there is no "Use This Mailbox For" option, but it is found in the Mailbox menu
Which is what both Barney and I already told you, do you ever read anything?
This was the first response to you a long time ago:
Note where it says, go to the Mailbox menu and choose Use This Mailbox for Sent
This was where Barney pointed it out as well:
Clearly you are not capable of understanding simple instructions given in English, once more I urge you to switch to an email system you can understand, Gmail is not it.
http://www.macworld.com/article/2033842/make-mail-and-gmail-play-nice.html
This article maintains that the problem is with Mail and not Gmail
It says that the All Mail label in Gmail will not play nice with the All Mail and Archive folders in Mail
So it is up to Mail to develop its Mail client.
By the way, a quick search here on the Forum will show that many others have the same problem with Mail
Just search f ex "gmail"
I have invested lots of energy and time in this issue and the result is that Mail is buggy.
Now if CSound and Barney and the others do not admit that it is not my problem
THis problem is dissolved (not resolved) which means: it is not my problem any more.
That article once again gives exactly the same advice as you have been given in this thread. I renew my earlier suggestion to find an email system that you understand, maybe your ISP has a free one you could use.
It is not a Mail problem. Gmail implements "Labels" which are not IMAP standard. The messages can have multiple labels, which is very difficult to implement when they are supposed to be folders or mailboxes. You either have to duplicate the messages in multiple folders, or do some other trick to represent that non-standard metaphor.
All Mail is a label that every message in Gmail has. Even if you Trash an email, it doesn't remove the "All Mail" label. The hints in those articles provide a mechanism for causing Gmail to also remove the "All Mail" label when you trash an email. If you don't do that, All Mail will continue to accumulate all of the email you thought you had deleted.
While you have expended a lot of energy, you still do not understand that Gmail is a non-standard implementation of an IMAP email server. That is why you have to go to all the trouble to make it act like one.
Mail has absolutely none of these issues when used with a standards-compliant IMAP or POP mail server. It is the non-standard implementation of "tagging" a message with multiple labels and not organizing them in actual folders that causes the problems that seem to fly miles above your head.
OK then. Mail cannot cope with the ****** not IMAP standard of GMail.
But then why does it destroy my Gmail organization??
I have Gmail as my standard mail and when looking at it now it is altered.
Who did that ? Mail of course.
It accumulated my All Mail in Gmail with lots of mails that I thought were trashed
It added unnecessar labels such as Deleted Messages etc (I cant even describe the mess)
And after a very lengthy Forum conversation I come to conclusion to abandon Mail altogether.
Not Gmail but Mail must be abandoned.
What about Sparrow ? does it solve the problems better ?
Bomiboll wrote:
OK then. Mail cannot cope with the ****** not IMAP standard of GMail.
But then why does it destroy my Gmail organization??I have Gmail as my standard mail and when looking at it now it is altered.
Who did that ? Mail of course.
It accumulated my All Mail in Gmail with lots of mails that I thought were trashed
It added unnecessar labels such as Deleted Messages etc (I cant even describe the mess)
And after a very lengthy Forum conversation I come to conclusion to abandon Mail altogether.
Not Gmail but Mail must be abandoned.
What about Sparrow ? does it solve the problems better ?
Mail did none of that, Gmail added 'All Mail', 'Deleted Items' etc (you can check for yourself, just disable the account in mail and all of the mailboxes you don't want will vanish)
Use PostBox
Bomiboll wrote:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2033842/make-mail-and-gmail-play-nice.html
This article maintains that the problem is with Mail and not Gmail
It says that the All Mail label in Gmail will not play nice with the All Mail and Archive folders in Mail
Once again, Gmail is tagging a message with a label, not moving the email into a container.
Nothing is Archived in Gmail. It is tagged with the "All Mail" label. To most people, Archiving is moving messages to a safe location. That's not what Gmail does. The author considers untagging all other labels but "All Mail" as Archiving, but it is not. What Gmail needs to do is recognize that an Archive folder means, "remove all labels except 'All Mail'"
However, that won't work for those of us who don't want Google datamining all of our old email and want messages that are trashed to be deleted, forever. I don't see any way Google will "fix" that problem as they want to sell your information to the whoever they can.
Postbox claims they have, "Awsome GmailSupport." I bet that means they leave all the email in "All Mail" so that Google can continue datamining.
Given that Google is one of the standard account types you can select when creating an account, Apple will likely continue to improve account setup. It would be simple for them to code it to map the standard folders automatically, like they do with other standard IMAP accounts. I doubt they will implement "labels" as it doesn't fit in the Mailbox paradigm. Apple keeps screwing up Mail to make it work with Outlook. Perhaps they'll do the same with Gmail.
So now you admit that Mail has poor support for Gmail ?
I have also tried with Yahoo mail account in Mail and encountered problems with the Send folder
There are folders Send and Sent Messages - cannot make only one Sent folder
Yahoo has a folder system i e not labels and yet it does not play nice with Mail.
If you can't make it work after 6 weeks of advice I doubt that you ever will, try another client, Postbox claims good Gmail support.
Why two Send boxes in Mail App ?