Sony Ericsson m600i - iSync

I have recently gotten my hands on the most perfect phone for me; the Sony Ericsson m600i. UMTS & triband GSM.

However, it does not sync with OS X.

I have managed to get it paired with OS X, as well as getting it recognised with iSync, but when the isync app is being installed on the phone, the phone complains that the app installation script is no longer supported (this is a UIQ3.0 phone).

Please, please help. I am replacing my ipaq 4700 with this phone, but I need the address book and the calendar.

Thank you in advance.

Hans E.

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Posted on Jun 9, 2006 9:46 PM

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Jul 17, 2006 4:35 PM in response to bilbo_baggins

I have sort of resolved the problem. I switched on Verbose logging, and discovered that it was during processing of Birthdays that it reported the error. I deleted the birthdays from the calendar on the Mail2web website and tried again and this time it worked. Presumably there must be something about those events that didn't suit the M600i? Everything else has now Sync'd across. I'm not sure I trust it enough for me to add new events to the M600i and expect them to make it to iCal (via M600i-> Exchange server-> Entourage-> iSync -> iCal) but at least I've got a rough idea on my phone so I can check when I'm free etc.

Come on Apple, get that iSync update released NOW!

Jul 19, 2006 6:23 AM in response to bighans

I've said it before - if Apple doesn't consider it worth allocating resources to keep iSync up to date ready for when new phones are released, then they should offer a 'pro' or 'premium' upgrade and use the funds to pay for the resources required for priority updates (similar to the MPEG upgrade for quicktime).

I'm sure there are many of us that depend on iSync that would be willing to pay for upgrades. This way they could 1) support every phone currently on sale (rather than the limited selection currently supported) and 2) support new phones on or before they day they become available to purchase.

I bought the Sony Ericsson T68i within a few days of Apple releasing iSync, and since then have only bought phones that have already got iSync support. However, the M600i is such a step up for me (from the P910i) that I would rather make do with the wacky sync via Entourage/Exchange server than wait for the iSync release. However, I'm absoutely depending on Apple supporting the M600i in the very near future.

Jul 19, 2006 8:18 AM in response to bilbo_baggins

I really think that Exchange Sync is much better than the iSync solution. You get your emails also synced, sth that doesnt work so well with the IMAPv4 account in the M600i. You create an appointment on your device and it is automatically visible to all computers configured against the exchange mailbox. This is not a synchronization, all devices just point to the same physical mailbox! This is a major difference in comparison with iSync. Exchange also offers pull email. When you have a new mail, you get automatically notified on your M600i...

I have tested iSync and I think that it is not that good...

Jul 19, 2006 12:06 PM in response to petvas

I'm sure Entourage / Exchange are more powerful than iSync/iCal etc but I'm used to iCal and have found iSync to be very reliable over the past few years. Unfortunately there is a trade off, simplicity and elegance of iCal vs complexity and power of Entourage. Fortunately my needs are simple enough that iCal suits me very well. I tend not to bother with email on my phone, as I generally don't have time to sort through emails while I'm away from home. I did start using my P910i for email at one stage but it started causing problems where the phone would crash part way through downloading, and then I would find that my Mac would keep receiving the same emails over and over again. Since I stopped using the phone for email this problem stopped! Maybe I'll brave it with the M600i at some stage! At the moment I don't really trust Entourage/Exchange as it didn't work properly for me right from the beginning. I had to delete some birthdays before it would sync correctly, as it kept giving me Symbian Error [-1]. I actually don't trust Microsoft software in general, in the past year I've had some very important Excel documents become corrupt due to a known bug. Excel files with Pivot Tables under some circumstances become corrupt. The Windows version of Excel is able to repair the files, but this repair feature has annoyingly been left out of the Mac version (I had to download a free trial of the Windows version to repair my files). The outcome is (apart from all the hassle), I don't dare use Pivot tables any more. Why have features if you cannot use them safely and reliably?

Jul 19, 2006 12:25 PM in response to bilbo_baggins

I must say, I agree with you. The Microsoft world has become so hard to use and I don't trust it an inch. My partner and I have a number of machines, and tend to always keep a Windows one going amongst several Macs. Currently a Vaio TX17. And I use PCs at work. The technology is probably great, but the virus and protection stuff is just so incredible for the home user that I often want to throw it very hard against a brick wall. I am sure that this is symptomatic of (1) success (and the consequences of a monopoly) and (2) poorly written software. At work you can just re-write the disk image or blame someone else which is not so easy at home unless you spend thousands on your back up strategy and have endless patience.

The Mac World is so much easier, more transparent, and functions more often than not. It isn't perfect, but I will support it 110% because it is good to have competition; and Apple are good competitors because their products are great. So come on Apple, support your loyal customers. Support the m600i. I have now got my 3G internet connection running on Vodafone with the m600i and it is a bit flakey, but when up, blisteringly fast at 774.5 kilobits per second (on a test). E-mail is not great because it doesn't seem to sync IMAP folders that I can see. But I can use it as a broadband modem on the move and see my in-box just fine as a stand alone. Whemn I have my diary on the m600i it will be goodye MissingSync and hello again to Apple!

Looking forward to iSyncing my m600i.

Jul 19, 2006 2:25 PM in response to bighans

I was waiting ages for this phone to be released. I thought it would take maybe a week for a plugin to be developed, since SE phones are quite well supported in Isync.

Well… aparantly not. My current phone (a busines class smartphone) the Nokia Comunicator 9300 is not officially supported to the day. - I just recently learnt about plugins from third Parties.
From this experiance I am not willing to get a phone which can't be synced.

Solutions to this problem might be that Apple opensourced the symbian agent for the P series. So that a dedicated programmer might be able to adapt it to Symbian OS 9. It probably will just require a recompile. Isync is already based on opensource technology namely SyncML.

Desperate as I was, i wrote an email to MarkSpace, producers of the missing sync products. They are currently working on supporting windows mobile 5 devices. These just as the M600i do use Microsoft Active Sync Technology, which SE licensed from them. The replied that since the M600i uses the symbian OS they won't support it. Maybe if some more folks showed interest we could change their minds?

Why aren't any Apple employes in this Forum consolidating us that support is at least planned.

If this situation doesn't resolve soon I'll probably get a windows mobile Phone. less Style but also less hassle using the MarkSpace Software

MacBook Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Aug 8, 2006 9:44 AM in response to petvas

Well I set up a 4smartphone account this afternoon - or thought I had. The activesync software for the m600 firstly asks for a domain name - I assume I leave that blank, but also, it always fails with the message that the server name is incorrect. I've checked again and again that I have typed it correctly - any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

I have tried also to set this up on a friend's E61 - that unhelpfully ays "error in communication" - so can anyone say if the server is working today (08/08), or is there a set up time of several hours that I should be aware of?

Thanks

Aug 16, 2006 3:54 AM in response to Antti Merikukka

agreed. p990's wht paper also states that "P990i always synchronizes using SyncML, regardless of connection type."

in regards to symbian OS 9.1 - plugin for nokia e61 is aleady out. the only diff i can see is s60 ui and uiq 3.0...

come on now, can someone pls make the plugin?? =)

Totally wrong. M600i uses SyncML for all of the sync
operations including BT sync. This is very clearly
documented in M600i developer white papers. So if
Nova guys know their stuff they should be able to
easily (OK... so its OS 9.1 so you have to do some
reading) create the plug.

Developer white papers:

http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/docstool
s/phonespecs/p_phonespecs.jsp



PM G4, G5, PB G4, PM
G3, Xserve, Xraid etc. Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Aug 16, 2006 4:16 AM in response to BiTurboMunkie

Don't you think if it was possible, somebody would make a Plugin available as soon as they possibly could?

Developers aren't deliberately withholding the means to sync these phones, just to spite you all!!!

But, if you know better, we'll all look forward to the day you release your M600 / P990 Phone Plugin.

SyncML is a syncing protocol. Not all phones adhere to it strictly. Not all phones implement all its features.

Nokia's implementation of SyncML is likely to be different to Sony Ericssons. Similar Nokia phones are already supported natively so making a new plugin is simple. For SE phones, no similar phones are yet supported natively.

Be patient, or do something yourself!

Aug 16, 2006 4:23 AM in response to Julian Wright

chill dude. someone got up on the wrong side of the bed...

Don't you think if it was possible, somebody would
make a Plugin available as soon as they possibly
could?

Developers aren't deliberately withholding the means
to sync these phones, just to spite you all!!!

But, if you know better, we'll all look forward to
the day you release your M600 / P990 Phone Plugin.

SyncML is a syncing protocol. Not all phones adhere
to it strictly. Not all phones implement all its
features.

Nokia's implementation of SyncML is likely to be
different to Sony Ericssons. Similar Nokia phones are
already supported natively so making a new plugin is
simple. For SE phones, no similar phones are yet
supported natively.

Be patient, or do something yourself!

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