Logic Pro X is stuttering video

I am having video playback problems with Logic Pro X. Video is stuttering and not playing back very well. I can load the same video into a LP9 project and the video playback is perfect.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Jul 28, 2013 9:27 AM

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Nov 17, 2013 6:16 AM in response to Joey Hodge1

10.0.4 and still no sign of these major SMPTE/ video bugs in LPX being addressed! I posted the following to the Apple Feedback Form.


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Hi Apple.


I would just like to let you know that I am suffering serious video playback stutter in Logic "Pro" X 10.0.4


The bug is exactly as described on this Apple discussions thread and I believe it may be related to the start time SMPTE bug discussed on this Logic Pro Help thread and demonstrated in my screencast.


I am working on a BBC drama series and these 2 bugs are making use of LPX almost completely unworkable.


I also do a lot of technical consultancy for other British composers and will have to vehemently advise against any media composer transitioning to Logic "Pro" X until video start times & video playback work reliably.

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Jan 8, 2014 10:45 AM in response to williamrice

This helped with video freezing and lag. Thanks William!


1) In Finder, duplicate the video file provided by the editor

2) Open it in Quicktime 7 (you'll have to find this on the internet or copy it over from an old OSX installation if you don't already have it)

3) Use the Movie Properties inspector (Cmd-J) to remove the audio track

4) Save as a new file with "(No Audio)" suffix

5) Pull that into the Logic Pro X project - Tada


However, Apple, I really need that sync track on the movie. Scoring music requires being able to offset the movie for each cue and to hear the sync audio it's easiest to monitor it off the movie. To extract it to a track in Logic and edit it and sync it up for every cue is a giant PITA. Feedback sent via Apple Feedback Form.

May 1, 2014 6:21 PM in response to James Weisbin2

"What's wrong with Apple?



Don't know as they are not normally here....


https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-5671


But, have you tried the open beta seed for 10.9.3 yet?


https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram


Note: For reasons related to the non disclosure agreement, as pointed out by one of the Mods here... I cannot tell you exactly what 10.9.3 fixes and what it doesn't. I can only recommend you try it for yourself. Make sure you back up your current System disk before doing so, as always when dealing with upgrades of any kind in regards to OS X

Jul 30, 2013 10:55 AM in response to Joey Hodge1

Same here. Trying out Logic X on a few different setups:


4-core Mac Pro with one 27" Cinema Display monitor: no video lag (by lag I mean, when you press play it takes 1-2 seconds to actually start playing)


Mac Pro (3.33 ghz 6 core) with two 30" monitors, 5770 card: some lag, not consistently, like every 3rd or fourth time.


Mac Pro (3.33 ghz 6 core) with two 30" monitors and 42" TV (HDMI), 5770 card: consistently lags. The strange thing is that we unhooked the TV to test it, but the lag did not go away.


OS is 10.8.4, Logic X 10.0.1 on all three. All three have solid state boot drives, session running from boot drive. I hope they fix this soon. I think it's to do with Logic using the newer Quicktime engine.


Does anybody think a more powerful video card, such as the EVGA GeForce GTX 680, might fix this issue?

Jul 30, 2013 11:31 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

The first link says to check QTKit activity and delete other movies in the same folder (which seems weird - why would other movies not loaded in Logic have any effect?)


I checked and QTKit shows 0% CPU, so it's not that.


We "clean" our movies to a very strict standard (H.264, AAF audio), I will have to experiment to see if there is a better format for Logic. But I think it's related to the number of monitors and the graphics card can't handle it - although L9 could. So the question remains, would a more powerful graphics card help? I know that Core Video does some processing and buffering on the GPU, so maybe that is being done differently than L9?

Jul 31, 2013 3:54 PM in response to Joey Hodge1

I tried a bunch of things:


Tried every possible combo of audio and video prefs, no difference.


deleted all fade files automation data: lag disappeared but came back after about 15 start/stops


deleted all audio, but not the movie: lag disappeared (as expected I guess)


disabled all plugins by disabling core audio: lags less but still lags, which is weird.


deleted all non-VI plugins one by, still lags


Opened Quicktime X and exported the move as "iPod, iPhone 4, and AppleTV (m4v): still lags


Opened Compressor and exported as "SD for Apple Devices" : NO LAG!!!!


However, I also made a new empty file and imported the session into that, with the old version of the movie, also no lag.


So there is something weird in my autoload, but it's how it interacts with the codec.


Bizarre.

Jul 31, 2013 4:28 PM in response to James Weisbin2

Very bizarre!


According to a tame 'techie' I know.. there are a lot more 'under the hood' changes to LPX than meets the eye and might be apparent.... He noted there seems to be a lot of changes made to the GUI routines, the use of Cocoa, the codec related stuff.. and other graphics related code..so bearing in mind all that... and the fact that LPX is still very 'zero day' .. Im not really that surprised that there will be some bizzare behaviour and bugs around..... and I have no doubt that at some point.. these weird little bugs will be worked out (hopefully)...


Thanks for the info however.. I'll add all that to my own notes... in case one of my clients has a similar issue.


Cheers!

Oct 9, 2013 9:08 PM in response to Joey Hodge1

I'm having the same problem, and it's driving me nuts. I'm scoring a major TV series, and this is absolutely not "pro". I have never had problems with video in Logic, and I've been a user since 2004. It's unbelievably silly and I feel a bit silly myself for having upgraded before waiting a year which is usually what I do with anything Apple related.


Basically, I have the same problem as everyone else in the above forum.

Oct 10, 2013 10:40 AM in response to James Weisbin2

I'm having this problem too.I spent about 3 days making a Logic X template to start scoring a BBC drama series.The video stuttered and slowed down the whole system. I went back to 9 - the video worked perfectly.I concluded X is just not a pro application for working to picture. There were also other glitches - in the piano roll editor a very useful feature is being able to move notes while the picture scrubs - handy for hitting specific events. In X the video didn't scub. I'm back to 9, happily scoring away, but apprehensive about moving to X now.

Oct 13, 2013 4:38 AM in response to Joey Hodge1

I've been having the same problems.
I extracted the original audio track, which appeared to be in 44kHz, and imported it as a independant audio track (converted to 48kHz) and I can now work to the film just fine.

No stuttering or skipping.


No idea if the sample rate was fighting somewhere between the original track and the 48kHz Logic project - but it's provided a basic workaround, and I can get on with the work.

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