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Why is Now Up to Date broken?

I am unable to upgrade to Mavericks, because my business is dependent on Now Up to Date. Finding an adequate substitute maybe be possible after a lot of research; however, I have detailed Now Up to Date patient records that stretch back more than 10 years. This easily searchable database is essential to my continued operation.


This leads to two questions that I've had for years: Why does every new release of the Mac operating system break essential software? And, why does Microsoft not have this problem?


Is Microsoft doing more thorough research on the demands and limitations of old software and is therefore much better able to support legacy software while still continuing to innovate?


Another question comes to mind: Why on earth did Apple abandon Rosetta -- one of it most elegant inventions? As Apple must certainly be aware, many PowerMac programs never made the transition to the Intel world. Loss of these programs has unnecessarily cheapened Apple's brand and reputation as a company that cares about its user base. It has also handed Microsoft an excellent advertising advantage. Although I don't like their operating system, I am sympathetic to their claim that they treat their customer base with respect. When a Microsoft user buys Windows software, he or she can rest easy in the knowledge that in a couple years their investment will continue to function.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 27, 2013 7:36 AM

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Posted on Oct 27, 2013 7:55 AM

If you upgrade to Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks, you cannot run Power PC Programs (As you know, OS X no longer supports Rosetta). If you must use Software from a company that has not upgraded their software or is no longer in business (Now Software suspended its day-to-day operations in March 2010), you can install Snow Leopard Server (for $20): See: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5435917?answerId=23364537022#23364537022


Install Snow Leopard Server on a separate Partition, and you can run Mavericks and Snow Leopard from the same Mac (either with Boot Camp, or with Parallels or Fusion)

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Feb 11, 2014 11:08 AM in response to Tony T1

Tony, I just want to jump in on one aspect of your reply, in which you say, "you should be looking for an alternative to 'Now Up to Date' since they ceased operations 3 years ago." I have been working with one client to find such an alternative since that time, to no avail. All of the contact manager/calendar programs seem either wildly overblown, or anemic. NUDC seemed to offer that middle ground that just worked. I've presented a variety of options, from BusyCal to Daylite to Chronos, and others. None have been a good fit. I don't even consider his needs to be "power user" stuff. The ability to link events with contacts, and to have that contact info a click away when looking at the events, is the key to his success, and it seems so missing or inadequate with other packages. Plus he has 1500 or so entries in Now Contact, and has been living with this app for the last decade. Why should his job now have to be finding a new program and learning how to use it? That's not what he does. He's a real estate developer and would like to continue to be that. Software (and apparently hardware) developers don't seem to understand that.

Feb 11, 2014 11:15 AM in response to Drew Reece

Bleeding edge? In this particular support thread, it sounds like people are just trying to use software that they need and rely on, because no suitable substitute seems to exist. It is that latter aspect that more or less forces them to be on the bleeding edge, it's not the result of some wild and crazy lifestyle. It seems more MacGyver than bleeding edge to me. The attitude is, "There just has to be a way to make it work!" So far, no cigar. We'll keep trying.

Feb 11, 2014 11:21 AM in response to Keith Gardner1

Keith: I'm totally in agreement with you. Nothing comes close to Now Up to Date and Now Contact. I haven been using these software since the early 1990's, started on my old MacClassic. Now it works in Parellel desktop with Snow Leopard Server on my i7 MacMini. The server runs in my office (on a old G5 Tower), and I have 6 Macs that sync the data with the server without any problems.

Feb 11, 2014 11:27 AM in response to Keith Gardner1

Hi Keith:


Here! Here! Now Up to Date a wonderful solution to the daily scheduling nightmare that my private practice entails. I've done some research and can find nothing that comes close to the way that the designers of Now Up to Date ancipated my every need.


In the post above, I mentioned running Now Up to Date in emulation, because Mavericks breaks it. This worked for a while, but was always nuisiance, not only for the reasons listed above; but because of the performance penalty caused by emulation, plus the many quirks and bugs in the Mavericks operating system. Several weeks ago, I bit the bullet and downgraded to Mountain Lion. I am so happy I did! Everything is smoother, faster, and more effortless. And, Now Up to Date is flying.

Feb 11, 2014 12:18 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

Steermouse is a mouse driver for configuring extra options.


http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/


I'm not sure what it is you want to configure with Steermouse. I'd install it inside the VM to see if that adds the correct features. Personally I use ControllerMate http://www.orderedbytes.com but it's a bit odd to configure (you need to read the help). I haven't tried either in a VM though. It's also unclear how 'coherence mode' in Parallels would work with the driver.

Feb 11, 2014 12:33 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

Actually, it's Mavericks that breaks Now Up to Date, not Mountain Lion. It runs perfectly in Mountain Lion, emulation-free.


SteerMouse is ancient 3rd party software for controlling the acceleration, scrolling, and button programming for my mouse. What's nice about it is that it unlocks the features of my "Windows-only" Razer mouse. I tried installing it inside of SLS/Parallels Desktop, and it isn't recognized. I contacted the Parallels help desk and was informed that their emulation doesn't reach that deeply. Why coherence mode works solves the problem is a mystery; however, coherence mode introduces other sticky problems and in the end wasn't practical for me.


Drew: Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

Feb 11, 2014 7:38 PM in response to trevorpsy

Hi Friends,


In my own little bubble in the world, I like to think I'm a power user for mac. I've been using NUD since 2001. I've had my eye on Market Circle's Daylite for about 10 years.


In 2005, we moved now contact to Daylite, but could not move our calendar. In my opinion Daylite's calendar was so infireior. I provided quite a lot of feedback to Market Circle back then. I've followed their progress over the years.


Once Mavericks broke Now Up to Date, I had to bite the bullet. Let me share with you my experience in case you are wondering what it might be like.


My situation: We are a small speech coaching company in Boston with 15 coaches. Our 2 Admins manager their calendars, and we don't want coaches to be able to change anything... and we need it color coded, and we need to see overlaping schedules...


I set up a staging server at home with a copy of the office database (Daylite) And I exported from NUD into a tabs delimited file. I practiced exporting by catagory, exporting all at once, you name it I tried it.


Then I would "import" into Daylite. Daylite allowed me to map the fields upon import. Pretty cool!


For each test, I'd only do 1 month at a time, so I did not need to keep restoring the empty daylite database.


After a few weeks of testing, I gained enough confidence to do this live!


So, I exported 35,000 entries from NUD dating back to 2001 and as far as 2015. (It was kind of awesome...)


Then, I imported it into Daylite, using the mapping and color coding from NUD. I prepared the "catagories" to match from NUD.


It took about 20 minutes, and when done, it was totally awesome! It looked similar to NUD.



Now, I had to instruct the admins to begin "linking" contacts to appointments. I made the decision not to link older appointments, because it would be overwhelming.


In general, this has been working really well. My team is very happy. the iPhone and iPad apps work very well. The older versionsof Daylite were very slow and clunky, but not anymore. Daylite will allow us to also subscribe to CalDav so admins can view coaches personal calendars at the same time if they desire.


The smart lists in Daylite are awesome. And overall, I've got to say, I'm a happy camper.


Is it perfect? No way, I have my complaints, and probably always will. . But, I should be honest and say, I have a smile on my face. We have more control, better ability to search and catagories and see how my comapny is operating with far greater ease. I can add notes, link to contacts, it's awesome. I can look up a client, and see every appointment ever done with that client. It's great!


I hope this helps. I miss NUD, I've been a fan for ever... I've been considering this cahnge, and had anxiety... but did my diligance, and I'm glad I made the swap. I'm glad to share more specifc details with anyone who is

interested.


I hope this is helpful to somone!

Best,

Ethan-

Feb 11, 2014 8:51 PM in response to Ethan Becker

Hi Ethan,


Thanks for the detailed description of your importing NUD data into Daylite. Fortunately, I'm not in a situation wherein I'm compelled to run Mavericks, so I can continue to run NUD across three operating systems: Leopard for my PowerMac at work, Snow Leopard on my laptop, and Mountain Lion on my home desktop. I keep the NUD file in Dropbox (with daily backups), so that a change to one is a change to all. Nifty system!


Take care,


Trevor

Mar 5, 2014 9:36 PM in response to trevorpsy

I'd like to chime in as well. We run two law offices in different cities on one calendar and still use Now Up-To-Date. People may be critical of us that we are using such old software, but there is nothing else like it. It is rock solid. NUD is in some ways the hearbeat of our practice. All our appointmenrs and reminders are on there. We even use it for leaving phone messages for each other with large, fake, appointments like "Messages for JPR" . Here is the thing: NUD It is cross-platform, multi-user, and users in other cities or at home automatically sync their calendars to our calendar server through a connection over the internet. NUD is perfect for us and has been since the early 1990's. We have looked high and low for a replacement, but we see none. Daylite might be nice, but it's only Mac. NUD on the other hand runs on our XPs and our Macs without a hitch. It might even work on Windows 7, don't know yet. Busycal doesn't run windows to my knowledge. Because of our loyatly to NUD we have stopped upgrading our computers to Apple's latest system software. I wish Rosetta were still around. Why there is not a real replacement for NUD we don't know, but we need NUD a whole lot more than we need Mavericks.

Mar 6, 2014 12:45 AM in response to gogatorz

gogatorz wrote:


Because of our loyatly to NUD we have stopped upgrading our computers to Apple's latest system software. I wish Rosetta were still around. Why there is not a real replacement for NUD we don't know, but we need NUD a whole lot more than we need Mavericks.

Test NUD in Mavericks by installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels and restore Rosetta capability.


More information here:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439


Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels for DUMMIES!:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564

Mar 6, 2014 1:00 AM in response to trevorpsy

trevorpsy wrote:


Perhaps you're right about adding Rosetta now to Mavericks, but it could have been maintained in Lion for a fee, that I think would have been worth Apple's time and expense. Did they consider making Rosetta an extra cost add-on at the time? What got in the way?

Rosetta was not written by Apple, it was not their product. The license expired and IBM bought the rights. And that was a long time ago.

Mar 6, 2014 6:43 AM in response to Ethan Becker

Ethan Becker wrote:


Now, I had to instruct the admins to begin "linking" contacts to appointments. I made the decision not to link older appointments, because it would be overwhelming.


I'd like very much to know about linking contacts to appointments, because it didn't appear that we could do that, so we must have missed something. It's such a basic and fundamental need, it's surprising how poorly supported or implemented it appears to be. Note: we do NOT want to send invitations or any other email communications when we set up such a link, we simply want the contacts to be linked so that from within the calendar we can click on the person's name and immediately pull up their contact info. Is that what you're talking about? If so, I'll look again. Thanks.

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