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Just had a look at activity monitor and found the following:
Does anyone know the reason for this? Safari itself is working normal, apart from random spinning wheel...
Kind regards,
MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9)
there is 2 red line of my mac.
remove Default Browser.plugin seem work but just for 1
another one still there.
and i didn't know remove that is right or not?
So i will put it back and waiting for apple update.
It may have something to do with LittleSnitch. Sometimes I block webcontent in Mail. Could it be that the WebKit doesn't swallow it?
I elimated the appearance of QTKitServer in Activity Monitor by disabling the extension ClickToFlash. I disabled it a week ago and haven't seen any occurences of QTKitServer in Activity Monitor since.
I'm now using the Safari Privacy feature that allows one to mangage website settings to block adobe Flash Player. (Preferences -> Security -> Manage Website Settings...) Here's a description of how to use this feature:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57609106-263/manage-plug-ins-on-a-per-site- basis-in-safari-7/
According to the article, this feature is new to Mavericks Safari version 7.
That doesn't solve the problem for many people. I don't even have the ClickToFlash extension, and I still get QTKitServer not responding processes in Activity monitor. Also, these QTKitServer not responding processes do NOT only appear in Safari web content, but they have appeared in Mail.app for me, too. However, the QTKitServer associated with Mail.app has only appeared once for me. Most of the time, QTKitServer is not responding with Safari web content. Other people have had QTKitServer not responding processes associated with other applications as well.
GrandGizmo wrote:
That doesn't solve the problem for many people. I don't even have the ClickToFlash extension, and I still get QTKitServer not responding processes in Activity monitor. Also, these QTKitServer not responding processes do NOT only appear in Safari web content, but they have appeared in Mail.app for me, too. However, the QTKitServer associated with Mail.app has only appeared once for me. Most of the time, QTKitServer is not responding with Safari web content. Other people have had QTKitServer not responding processes associated with other applications as well.
Try uninstalling things like Perian, Flip4Mac and Silverlight. You will need to download their uninstaller packages (usually come with the installer package) from the respective web pages.
They seem to still be using Quicktime for their component support, while Apple have shifted away from Quicktime components to CoreMedia components for their A/V support.
I have just done a sample process on the QTkitserver loop and it shows three components trying to open ports to QTkitserver. Elgato EyeTV, Perian and Flip4Mac.
If you get any more QTkitserver loops, run a sample process and any component trying to connect to QTkitserver will show up. I would then remove/uninstall any plugin components related to those apps, or look for an update.
You can go to your user library and remove the plugins yourself. User/Library/Quicktime
And System plugins via Library/Quicktime
If you have Perian or Flip4Mac installed, that might explain why Apple Mail was trying to connect to QTkitserver. Those apps would be looking to preview video inside an email.
Update. If you have Perian installed it can be removed from the Perian preference pane in system preferences.
And Flip4Mac provide an uninstaller package in Applications/Flip4Mac folder.
Andrew J
Thank you for pointing how this thread has been misleading, my wife and I do not have any of the outdated plug-ins you mention and are still having problems with the SWOD. We eliminated those long ago because of this thread. This poblem has long persisted before Maverick. If you have only been following for a year, a couple of years, tour still behind, it has persisted for over 5 years.
Yes, my posted offered no solution, but has any of the posts here. The problem is deeper in Safari and QTKItserver. They are riddled with lacacy bugs. This makes as much sense as anything I've seen here.
Where's Apple on this issue... nonexist on this thread. Does that tell you something???
Misleading? The only one being misleading here seems to be you. You have described nothing relative to the discussion.
Is your issue related to the QTkitserver loop, as described by the OP? As long as I've been using Apple computers, this specific issue has only come to my attention since Mavericks was released. Were you having the QTkitserver issue beforehand?
Is your issue related to the problem as posted by the OP, or do you just want to hijack the thread with your attack on Apple, and offer no description of any of your issues, be they related to this thread or not?
If you seriously have an issue, then please open a thread, or link to a previous thread, describe in detail everything you can about your problem, then others who do have the patience to deal with it, can offer a solution, until then, I don't have any clue what you are talking about. You seem to have come here to complain about Apple, about what, nobody knows.
I have been on these forums for a while now and an Apple user for over 28 years, and it seems to me you don't understand how these forums actually work. They are moderated and responded by users, not anyone at Apple. Apple only hosts the page, the rest is done by volunteers who do their best to help.
If you really want a fix, either open a thread or link to your thread, about your issues, in detail, or make an appointment with the Genius bar. Otherwise you're not helping yourself making juvenile statements about an issue, you have not described here.
If you have a previuos thread to your issue, in detail, link it, and I may have a look at it.
Do you mean" latency"? What "latency bugs" are you talking about? How does it relate to this thread?
Apple have done, or never will, respond on these forums.
I hope that tells you everything.
Good Point!! I will open a new thread. This thread has good speculation, but no real solutions. Apple reps have been noticably quite on the topic. And yes, the Spinning Wheel of Death (SWOD) issues have been around much longer than the QTKitserver issues. My speculation is the QTKitserver issue(s) is (are) a symptom of a larger problem, the SWOD. The SWOD has been around for a long time. Activity Monitor shows that "luanchd"," sh", "sed", "QTKitserver" and many other spawned processes can freeze window updates and cause the SWOD to appear. Window updating and freezing is not just caused by this one QTKitserver issue. And I'm sure that a 28 year vetren recognizes that buggy code can't trap all these processes, since some of the processes are UNIX processes upon which the Mac OS is built.
So, I agree with you, a new thread is needed to understand where the buggy code exists and what is causing it. This QTKitserver issue is simply a symptom of something more fundamental.
Oh, BTW, my first Mac was an Apple IIc, in 1984.
In "Open Files and Ports" I have the following. Should I be removing something that I don't see here ?:
/
/System/Library/Frameworks/QTKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.qtki tserver.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.qtkitserver
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.fram ework/Versions/A/Resources/HIToolbox.rsrc
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.fram ework/Versions/A/Resources/English.lproj/Localized.rsrc
/System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/Resources/QuickTime.rs rc
/System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/Resources/English.lpro j/Localized.rsrc
/private/var/folders/j0/kc9c1tlj0bng8rt0nmdyct3h0000gn/C/com.apple.qtkitserver/c om.apple.scriptmanager2.le.cache
/private/var/folders/j0/kc9c1tlj0bng8rt0nmdyct3h0000gn/C/com.apple.LaunchService s-044501.csstore
/usr/share/icu/icudt51l.dat
/usr/lib/dyld
/private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_i386
/dev/null
/dev/null
/dev/null
count=2, state=0x2
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.fram ework/Versions/A/Resources/HIToolbox.rsrc
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.fram ework/Versions/A/Resources/English.lproj/Localized.rsrc
/System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/Resources/QuickTime.rs rc
/System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/Resources/English.lpro j/Localized.rsrc
->0x360b550f3dc8a1e9
With all due respect to you sir, I don't know you, but what you said, just made no sense whatsoever. Just random gobbledygook.
My 28 years includes 14 years working in IT, on nothing but Apple OS's and hardware. So I say this with a qualified opinion. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. "Trapped processes"? "Spawned processes"? In what IT world do these exist?
The QTkitserver issue doesn't freeze any "window updates".
Now if you have system reports that back up any of these "claims", I would really enjoy reading them.
But seriously, post in detail what problems you are having, not perceieved conspiracies about Apple code.
If the QTkitserver process isn't highlighted in red, then it's a normal process.
If you do have QTkitserver running and is highlighted red, select it, go to system diagnostics options (the gears tab) and run Sample Process. All the details will show what components are trying to connect to QTkitserver.
Here's the Sample. Can anyone read and explain please ?
Sampling process 11951 for 3 seconds with 1 millisecond of run time between samples
Sampling completed, processing symbols...
Analysis of sampling com.apple.qtkitserver (pid 11951) every 1 millisecond
Process: com.apple.qtkitserver [11951]
Path: /System/Library/Frameworks/QTKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.qtk itserver.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.qtkitserver
Load Address: 0x22000
Identifier: com.apple.qtkitserver
Version: 1.0 (1)
Build Info: QuickTime64-2826000001000000~11
Code Type: X86
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Date/Time: 2013-12-27 00:34:54.361 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.1 (13B42)
Report Version: 7
Call graph:
2606 Thread_81492 DispatchQueue_1: com.apple.main-thread (serial)
+ 2606 start (in libdyld.dylib) + 1 [0x92d2470d]
+ 2606 main (in com.apple.qtkitserver) + 158 [0x2febe]
+ 2606 xpc_service_main (in XPCService) + 426 [0x9c28efe3]
+ 2606 CFRunLoopRun (in CoreFoundation) + 129 [0x9c0d2461]
+ 2606 CFRunLoopRunSpecific (in CoreFoundation) + 394 [0x9c00fd5a]
+ 2606 __CFRunLoopRun (in CoreFoundation) + 1393 [0x9c010541]
+ 2606 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort (in CoreFoundation) + 169 [0x9c010f69]
+ 2606 mach_msg (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 68 [0x9ab4716c]
+ 2606 mach_msg_trap (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x9ab47f7a]
2606 Thread_81534 DispatchQueue_2: com.apple.libdispatch-manager (serial)
+ 2606 _dispatch_mgr_thread (in libdispatch.dylib) + 52 [0x91794556]
+ 2606 _dispatch_mgr_invoke (in libdispatch.dylib) + 238 [0x917948bd]
+ 2606 kevent64 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x9ab4d992]
2606 Thread_201475
2606 start_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 30 [0x90422cce]
2606 _pthread_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 372 [0x9041edcf]
2606 __workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x9ab4d046]
Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
__workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) 2606
kevent64 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) 2606
mach_msg_trap (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) 2606
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0x9aa46000 - 0x9ab2cff7 com.apple.coreui (2.1 - 231) <1C1AE894-C5C2-3F1C-BF29-B152ECD9BD88> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/CoreUI
0x9ab2d000 - 0x9ab34ff2 com.apple.NetFS (6.0 - 4.0) <915AA303-C02B-3B0C-8208-D8AAA4350DB4> /System/Library/Frameworks/NetFS.framework/Versions/A/NetFS
0x9ab35000 - 0x9ab52ff4 libsystem_kernel.dylib (2422.1.72) <C5641F6C-E271-380A-A656-AE4C04345602> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9ab53000 - 0x9ab5dff2 com.apple.AppSandbox (3.0 - 1) <085C3B38-C7D8-3A62-AFC6-CEE27F93DFD1> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppSandbox.framework/Versions/A/AppSandbox
0x9ab5e000 - 0x9ab65fff libMatch.1.dylib (19) <3B3680FC-2AC9-37CC-B262-5ACE2CF8939A> /usr/lib/libMatch.1.dylib
0x9ab66000 - 0x9ab7efff com.apple.CFOpenDirectory (10.9 - 173.1.1) <630A5CCF-8FC3-379D-B0BD-41DCE1F0B624> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenDirectory.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFOpen Directory.framework/Versions/A/CFOpenDirectory
0x9ac47000 - 0x9ac48fff libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib (100) <B936B1D4-90BB-395D-8EA9-E1237608E7D0> /usr/lib/libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib
0x9ac54000 - 0x9ac55ffa libsystem_sandbox.dylib (278.10) <F3C9C427-AF9F-3CE0-95FF-DC9ACA0B5760> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_sandbox.dylib
0x9add5000 - 0x9af47ffb com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox (1.9 - 1.9) <E5FFD35D-18CF-333C-BECE-39F8E47BE707> /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
0x9af48000 - 0x9b05affc libsqlite3.dylib (158) <B3DB0FED-FE4C-314D-8329-CF7708C8AAF4> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
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0x9bf4c000 - 0x9bf50ffe libCoreVMClient.dylib (58.1) <0EB8FFD7-AFED-3A63-810E-29629831D43D> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libCoreVMClien t.dylib
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0x9c221000 - 0x9c225ffc libpam.2.dylib (20) <50623D44-795F-3E28-AA85-23E0E7E2AE0E> /usr/lib/libpam.2.dylib
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0x9c28d000 - 0x9c294ff7 com.apple.XPCService (2.0 - 1) <94783930-9E46-394F-B1B2-9CA57CBA2D25> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/XPCService.framework/Versions/A/XPCService
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0x9c32e000 - 0x9c35fffa libsystem_m.dylib (3047.16) <28E614E8-7802-3E84-960A-AD4721EF10F7> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_m.dylib
0x9c360000 - 0x9c360ffd libOpenScriptingUtil.dylib (157) <4D06E8ED-D312-34EA-A448-DFF45ADC3CE5> /usr/lib/libOpenScriptingUtil.dylib
0x9c361000 - 0x9c362fff liblangid.dylib (117) <F18F76C6-7E4B-34AD-AE81-C1C031BF2F7D> /usr/lib/liblangid.dylib
Sample analysis of process 11951 written to file /dev/stdout
This is the last time I will post here. I have started a new thread on the issuses that I believe this QTKitserver is a merely a symptom.
But seriously, as IT "professional" you do not know that "launchd" can spawn over 20 subprocesses? Or it can "spawn" the "sh" prcess which can call/spawn the "sed" process, multiple times, and these can eat more than 60% of the CPU for minutes before the system decides to give up and kill them. Processes spawned by "launchd" are the most likey culprit to the SWOD. The "launchd" manages processes, processes for the system and users. It is Macs preferred way to launch deamons (ie, spawned processes). It is processes spawned (launched) by "launched" that are where the issue is. Which processes, Apple initiated or third-party is unknown to me, but there should be code within OS X to trap and gracefully degrade poor code by error trapping.
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Please stay within this thread where you are comfortable.
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