Separate volume control for alarm and ringer

Hi there uri66 - I'm sorry if my contribution is rather late but I have only just got an iPhone in my defence lol. I stumbled across this when I was having the EXACT same problem with the phone volume linking up with the alarm volume

I've just tried this out and it seems to work. It'd be good to hear what everyone else thinks about this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1my19q/detach_alarm_volume_from_its_depe ndence_on_phone/

DETACH alarm volume from its dependence on phone volume in iOS 7!(self.iphone)

submitted 1 year ago by NEKKHAMMA

The complaint is simple:

1. IOS sounds (like new email, tweet, keyboard sound, facebook post, etc) occur mostly while you use your device and have your attention to it. They do not need to be too loud.
2. The Phone ringer and the Clock alarm sounds, occur while you are in another room, while driving, while having the phone in your pocket, while in a loud bar, while you sleep and snore.

Currently, these two classes of sounds share the same volume slider.

I very often lose phone calls because of the low volume. If I increase the (one) volume I have to hear in an uncomfortable loud level the sounds for every sent email, keyboard tick, facebook post.

Not very logical.

I tried the trick to untick "Change with buttons" but this does not separate the two classes of sounds. They are still either too low (losing phone calls) or too loud (non-important sounds at unreasonable level).

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So turning down the volume at night doesn't seem like it would cause a problem. It doesn't sound as if you're saying you need the ringer low and the alarm high at night bu rather that you just need the volume low at night. I'm not sure why it matters, then that they're not separate.

DND will turn the ringer off for everyone who you don't want calling you. So, in theory, you won't need to adjust the volume at all. The alarm will still sound. As you can put DND on a schedule, it will deactivate in the morning and then you'll hear all of your calls.

If you get lots of calls at night and want to be able to hear them but not have someone else hear them, then, no, this won't be a solution. For that, there is nothing to be done but, perhaps, set yourself a reminder to adjust the volume.

Exactly the problem I have. My sympathies! I am constantly forgetting to either turn the "ringer" down for my alarm, or back up so I can hear it during day-time activities. This is most certainly an oversite that I hope will be fixed once one of the engineers gets woken up by a 100% volume alarm. :-) There needs to be separate alarm and a ringer volume controls!

Using an aftermarket app is likely the only way to get around this, but as others have pointed out (and the same reason that I sometimes use Safari) is that the native apps just play nicer with the rest of the phone.

Man, I hope they fix this. For the first few months of iPhone5 ownership, I thought for sure that I was just confused. Nope. The phone is confused.

This capability should be added to iOS. I agree with the poster...without this you are forced to fiddle with your volume every night and every morning if you don't want to wake up the baby. Android has this baked in, so it should be easy for Apple to implement, right? 🙂

You can set the alarm volume separate from the ringer volume.

slaterk wrote:

No, there's no way to do it! Personally, it's the most annoying thing about ANY Apple product,

You're annoyed that all Apple prodcuts have alarms you cannot set separate from the ringer?

AirPort, Aperature iTunes, iMac, MacBook, AppleTV, (etc...) do not not have alarms/ringers.

It's insane, stupid or pathetic - take your pick

Some of the posts in these forums?

Agreed.

jeffreydavila wrote:

Hi Chris,

I was just researching this same issue and have to say I agree with slaterk. Every app should have a separate ringer control

Only 1 app uses the ringer. The Phone app for phone rings.

and it's simply not acceptable Apple offer this functionality.

You don't want Apple to offer this?

I miss calls almost daily because the alarm is low

So go to Settings > Sounds, and set the ringer volume and turn off Change ringer volume with buttons.

I miss calls almost daily because the alarm is low and the last thing I have on my mind when I rise is changing anything on my iPhone other than to shut off the alarm.

With the settings above, turning off an alarm will not change the ringer volume.

HHi.

i have the same issue here. Every night I set the alarm volume via the clock app to the lowest weakest sound possible to be waken up by a blasting sound .

Not cool. To me or to my husband.😕

HOw ow is it possible for apple to "forget" such basic feature in a device as PERSONAL as an iphone?!

are they not offering that new wrist watch phone thing.... ? Is that as inconvenient when it comes to the simplest of features like it is an alarm clock?!

It is just absurd!!!

TheMHorn wrote:

HHi.

i have the same issue here. Every night I set the alarm volume via the clock app

???
There is no option to set the alarm volume (or any other volume) in the Clock app.

You set the Alarm volume in Settings > Sounds - Ringers & Alerts slider.

I Jumped at looking at DND when you said it does what the op wants. But I'm afraid you're wrong. he wants to not have to turn the volume up and down every day so as to not have the alarm blaring in the morning, or miss calls because the vomune was turned down. This is also a major gripe for me. I moved to iOS from android. The alarms on andriod are individually volume controlled for every alarm. so instead of having to turn my phone down (I'm a light sleeper who doesn't like the alarm loud) then turn it back up in the day. I could set it once when I created my wake up alarm and never change it or the master volume ever again. This is something I really want. Apple should look to androids clock options for alarms and snooze ,,(9 mins and no other option *** )

Chris CA, I'd like to ask if you have an opinion on the alarm. I noticed in your reply to jeffreydavila that you suggested he go to settings and turn off 'change volume with buttons' but this doesn't solve his issue, or what some people here are missing. It's the option to not have to turn the phone up and down to influence the alarm volume.

For what it's worth, uri65, I've found one method that works for me. I found a song I wanted to use for the alarm, copied it out into a working directory. I then loaded it into Total Recorder PE (note, you must use PE for this, but you can run the demo version if your sample is less than 60 seconds (it puts a burp every 60 seconds)). (I'm sure there are other programs that will do this but I have and use TR a lot so it was easiest for me).

Once you've got the file loaded, use the controls below the track to select the first 59 seconds (no burp!), then select Process, Fading Effects, and put 59 seconds for the Fade in/Fade out interval (max of 99 seconds, but we want to avoid the burp). Now "Apply to selection", set Fade In, and click OK.

This will provide a serious amount of fade to the entire 60 seconds worth -- and the beginning of the track is barely audible even with the iphone volume at max.

Once you've completed this, do a File, Save As, and save it with a new name (I called mine "Fade In Alarm". Import this file to iTunes, sync it to your iphone, and set the alarm sound to this file. I think you'll find it a satisfactory (if not perfect) work-around.

Now if only Apple would split the volume controls we'd be fine! :-)

Cheers, Dallas