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My devices have been hacked. What do I do?

i was using my ipad a short while ago when suddenly it locked itself, and was askiwhich I'd never previously set up. I went to check my phone and there was a message on the screen (it's still there) saying that my device(s) had been hacked by 'Oleg Pliss' and he/she/they demanded $100 USD/EUR (sent by paypal to ****) to return them to me.


I have no idea how this has happened. I am not aware of having been exposed to malware or anything else, although i did recently purchase some new apps - perhaps one of these has something to do with it? I don't know. I am not sure what avenue has been used to reach my devices - I'm about to use my husband's laptop to check through some of my accounts (gmail, etc) and see if there is any clue there.


Has this happened to anyone else? What can or should I do? Many thanks

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Posted on May 26, 2014 4:57 AM

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Posted on May 26, 2014 5:48 AM

hi Rojmer, thank you for your reply. I was pretty sure that whoever Oleg Pliss is, it's not really the name of the person who hacked my iDevices 🙂


I think that what you described is what happened - I have gone into iCloud and when i used the 'find my iphone' feature i did indeed see the message and that both the devices were locked.After a bit of research my husband suggested that i turn off 'lost mode' to see if that would restore functionality but this isnt working - each device says 'pending: stop lost mode' but are both still 'lost' despite being turned off before i tried to stop lost mode (if that makes sense).


I'm going to see about changing my icloud password now, as well...

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May 26, 2014 7:09 PM in response to kkneufeld

kkneufeld wrote:


But shouldn't they at least acknowledge it?


Not necessarily. For one, they probably don't have enough information yet to make any kind of intelligent comment at the moment, so making a comment would be a waste of their time and ours.


Secondly, this doesn't appear to be a breach of Apple's security. If it were, we wouldn't be seeing only Australians and New Zealanders getting this message. It would be affecting a broader spectrum of Apple's users. This means it must be a breach of some system local to Australia and New Zealand that has allowed hackers to capture Apple ID passwords.

May 26, 2014 7:19 PM in response to thomas_r.

thomas_r. wrote:


kkneufeld wrote:


But shouldn't they at least acknowledge it?


Not necessarily. For one, they probably don't have enough information yet to make any kind of intelligent comment at the moment, so making a comment would be a waste of their time and ours.


Secondly, this doesn't appear to be a breach of Apple's security. If it were, we wouldn't be seeing only Australians and New Zealanders getting this message. It would be affecting a broader spectrum of Apple's users. This means it must be a breach of some system local to Australia and New Zealand that has allowed hackers to capture Apple ID passwords.


Noted.


I will just have to wait it out and hope for the best.

May 26, 2014 7:38 PM in response to tallPete

I don't think it's passwords - or at least not just. We have three iPhones at home, all on different accounts, all with strong passwords (all more than 12 characters, all with a mix of upper case, lower case, numbers, and punctuation, with no words or embedded leet-speak words) that aren't used on other sites. Two of them came up with this overnight, the third didn't. The only obvious difference is that (through sheer accident) the third had WiFi switched off at the time, and was thus accessing Apple via a different ISP - the mobile phone carrier.


Given this seems to be happening mainly in Australia / New Zealand I suspect a man-in-the-middle attack (a bit like the idoulCi hack) where someone has redirected Internet traffic from some ISP's in Australia/NZ to a server that's doing the nasty. :-( There's very little checking in many of the peering fabrics used by ISP's to transfer domestic traffic to each other, it would only take one ISP to be hacked and insert a route saying "Apple this way!" to a single peering fabric to steal 30%+ of customers in Aus/NZ.


That said, as we should in these circumstances we have changed passwords on all accounts to new strong random passwords, just in case someone has hacked Apple and retreived passwords.

May 26, 2014 7:55 PM in response to veritylikestea

I was in Sydney Apple Store at George street today at 11:00am with this issue (iphone 5 was without pass code, at night it was message that phone was hacked and pass lock installed). In the store they told me that first time listen about such issue and if I don't have itunes synced with my phone I can only reset it to factory default.... I was able to change Apple ID password, but unable to remove lock.... I synced my iphone with computer some time ago but after itunes update (and iphone ios update) they are unable to connect back. I have some family photos there which I don't wish to lost, but looks like companies who restore information unale to work with iphone 5... 😟

May 26, 2014 8:10 PM in response to rvolkov

Interesting thread. We have eleven iDevices in our family. Three have had the same hack as under discussion. The three that have been hacked had the "keychain" option on iCloud enabled. All three (they belong to younger family members) were used regularly for popular games with "in app" purchasing. All three owners used the same password on multiple accounts, both Apple and Android. Android is notoriously insecure with its "permissions" being granted to all all manner of developers. None of this might be relevant, but they seem possibly suspect to me.


All three have been restored sucessfully from iTunes backup and their passwords changed. None now have the keychain option selected.


I would love to know whether others use Android devices for the same mail accounts as on their Apple devices, or use iCloud (it's an easy thing to do) on Android.

May 26, 2014 8:11 PM in response to Andrew Rutherford

If you look at 'lozzab22's entry (currently at the top of page 9):


"I have an unlocked iphone originally from Australia, but its now with me living in Toronto, Canada - and got the same hacked message mid-morning. So this tells me its not Aussie service providers, and only icloud related. "


This suggests it might not involve ISP's but point back at Apple being more involved as it is the common denominator.

May 26, 2014 8:13 PM in response to Andrew Rutherford

Andrew Rutherford wrote:


Given this seems to be happening mainly in Australia / New Zealand I suspect a man-in-the-middle attack (a bit like the idoulCi hack) where someone has redirected Internet traffic from some ISP's in Australia/NZ to a server that's doing the nasty. :-( There's very little checking in many of the peering fabrics used by ISP's to transfer domestic traffic to each other, it would only take one ISP to be hacked and insert a route saying "Apple this way!" to a single peering fabric to steal 30%+ of customers in Aus/NZ.


That said, as we should in these circumstances we have changed passwords on all accounts to new strong random passwords, just in case someone has hacked Apple and retreived passwords.


That's what it certainly seems like to me as well. Traffic being redirected to a fake iCloud site to capture logins.

May 26, 2014 8:28 PM in response to Andrew Rutherford

This is interesting, however the attacker was only demanding $100 per client or something. The attacker will have claimed $0 at the moment! Not much reward. So it isn't going to be a sophisticated attack. Hacking an ISP is a sophisticated attack. Hacking Apple is a sophisticated attack. If you knew how to attack either of these reliably, then you wouldn't waste it setting iDevices to lost.


If it isn't a password attack then I would go the next simplest with Mums and Dads - routers using default passwords. Although how to man in the middle redirected SSL traffic to get the passwords remains unsolved. But I still think password reuse is far far more likely.

May 26, 2014 8:37 PM in response to Andrew Rutherford

Interesting points, Andrew - I think that password quality is likely to be an issue in a number of cases, but it sounds like your environment is one which is pretty secure. Any chance you're using 1Password? Is anyone who has had this happen using 1Password -- mostly out of knowledge of the quality of the passwords that can generate.


The BGP/IP hijacking explanation, whilst possible, doesn't seem probable or the numbers of people impacted would be vast.


Another potential explanation could be the way in which Apple IDs are contingent upon email addresses - is it possible that targets were socially engineered or phished, either through email in recent weeks/months, or, fake "support" calls which scammers are always busy with?


And even if they didn't accidentially reveal their passwords, it's possible the password reset/recovery functionality of their email provider could have also played a role.


So far I've seen most of the Telco carriers mentioned - but what about the email providers, any common threads there?

May 26, 2014 8:53 PM in response to ScottM

I have no idea about the password issue; I haven't used 1Password and I'm not sure where the other common denominator might be... However I have successfully regained control of my devices via restore, both now protected with a passcode, 'find my iphone' is OFF. I do have another question though, because while I have reacquired all my apps on my iphone, even though I am signed into the same appleID account on my ipad it's not showing up any of my past purchases (whereas my iphone did, straight away). I've restored it both as a new ipad and as a backup of my current iphone... what else should I try?


Thanks SO much to all of you who have helped and contributed!

May 26, 2014 9:17 PM in response to tallPete

You may be right TallPete but I still wonder if it is not MITM.


There a a few reasons for that idea:

There is no evidence yet that the number of people affected is not large. That remains to be seen.


The number of people here with the issue in such a short time is unusually high. That points to a large issue - especially since there is no reason to suppose that the majority of those impacted would come here first.


I would even suspect that there would be a number who would pay... not that they would say so out loud. The amount demanded is relatively small and the method of fixing it relatively arcane to the non-technical user. That makes for payment the easy option.


There is evidence from Apple that until recently iTunes was open to MITM exploit.

Not everybody religiously patched their software and it is reasonable to suppose that there is a significant number of unpatched iTunes out there..




On the other hand - as you say - there could be other explanations.


I think that the significant number of attacks in one night points to a harvesting of Apple IDs and Passwords that has been happening over a number of days followed by a programmed exploit to launch the ransom demand. The quickest way to have achieved that would be to have had a phishing exercise via email or other software infection.


There is also a large number of people whose IT security practices make phishing easier.


The fact that the issue seems local to this region could be related to the vector of deception.



The weak point in the attack is that the actions taken did not prevent a fairly simple restoration. It might be that the hijacking of the whole account either was not possible in the time frame allowed for the attack - or that the attacker was only 'almost clever'.




It will be interesting to see what the story is when it comes out in the fullness of time.

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