iOS 8 camera roll is missing!!!

Not really. If iCloud is turned off (i.e., Photo Stream in iCloud turned off), then you will not have photos from any device signed onto that iCloud account shared automatically with all other devices on that iCloud account.

And, the Recently Added is pretty much the equivalent of Photo Stream/Camera Roll for the last 30 days, but regardless of the Photo Stream setting in iCloud, there still will be no "Camera Roll", which is what most people seemed to be most concerned about.

Basically:

The Photos Library has all of the photos (except the "Recently Deleted" ones)

The "Recently Added" has all photos (Photo Stream and Camera Roll) taken or added in the last 30 days

GB

The Photos option is there in iOS 8.0 as well. How do you see it as different from the iOS 8 photos?

GB

If the photos were taken in the last 30 days, then you can look at them in "Recently Added". If they were taken before that, I'm just not getting the issue issue with dates being applied to groups of photos?

GB

that is not true.

before 8.0 I did not have all of my photos divided up in to arbitrary 'collections' by date and place.

That may be keen for selfie takers. But it makes finding photos kind of annoying.

For instance I have a set of photos I took over a week, about a month ago. It documents the service tags on some printers.

Now this st is split between a "south of Market" album and a "San Francisco and Oakland" album.

I did not create these. I do not have iCloud turned on for photos.

Now I need to sit down and pick through all my pics and sort them into folders that makes sense.

golly gee, thanks for making work.

Gail wrote: "The Photos option is there in iOS 8.0 as well. How do you see it as different from the iOS 8 photos?"

What??? There is NO Photos album in the Photos app in iOS 8.0 that contains ALL your photos in chronological order. It doesn't exist!!! Don't confuse the Photos app with the new Photos album in the Photos app. Thank goodness Apple has realized they made a horrendous mistake in removing the Camera Roll from iOS 8.0. They're bringing it back in 8.0.1 (or whatever they decide to call the next update) with the name "Photos" rather than "Camera Roll". So all this discussion by Gail and the other Apple zealots on this forum trying to justify this bad decision made by Apple is a moot point because it's going to be fixed in the next update!

did you see an announcement about the Photos Album coming back, or just stories from people who downloaded 8.0.1 ???

I saw stories, and I'm just scared that people are confusing the app with the album.

god, i hope it's coming back, Collections is a childish mess, half the time it uses location names that might be correct, but mean NOTHING to me

Look at instagram.com/drawn_tdg, or instagram.com/moleculecure on an iPhone. For those IG galleries to work, photos have to be loaded in a very particular sequence, and the Camera Roll stored photos, all of them, in exactly the sequence stored (whether by taking the photo with the camera, or saving it off of a Message or Email, etc.)

"Recently Added" doesn't do that. The photos may be recent, but they are not sorted in "order saved". I have yet to determine the criteria being used.

The various "Photos" collections organize by location (not useful in this case) and by "date", but that date isn't the date SAVED TO THE DEVICE, but rather some internal metadata date stored with the photo. Not useful.

Nor is searching aided by the Collections. Photos are visual, and most people relate to them visually (It was next to this photo, or before this one).

To build my IG gallery, I save photos, take pictures of drawings, use various apps to edit and slice and store my drawings in sequence, other apps to load photos and annotate or add borders... an entire array of photo-related Apps and sites, all built around the intuitive and sensible Camera Roll. I need to work with photos in the sequence stored, I need to work with photos older than 30 days.

In short, an entire ecosystem is built around the Camera Roll, and by removing it, the food chain is broken. It's as if suddenly the trees in the rain forest had been removed. It breaks the entire ecosystem. Telling me that the trees are not really MISSING, they've just been reorganized according to other criteria like size or economic value or that they are now sorted horizontally onto flatbed trucks is rather beside the point.

So, I can wait I suppose for tumblr, twitter, facebook, instagram, phonto, pixlr, instatiling, and several other Apps and sites to all conform to Apple's new photo paradigm, or... Apple can bring back the Camera Roll. (Which, they apparently tried to do with 8.0.1. I guess we'll have to wait and see.)

j-m-d: I heard about the new Photos album in iOS 8.01 on the official Apple iOS developer forum, from very technically knowledgeable iOS developers. They know what they're talking about.

lol, I'm glad I didn't know yesterday, I would have gone to 8.0.1 as soon as it came out

Yes, I'm still struggling to figure out the order that "Recently Added" photos are presented in. Some photos 2-3 weeks old - which by rights should be near the top of the list and about to expire - appear below photos I've taken in the last day or two. I have been experimenting with the new arrangement with and without Photostream (the former ensures a cloud copy of photos I take; the latter provides a much cleaner and sensible ordering of photos) and it may be that Apple is pulling the date the photo was restored from Photostream, rather than the date the photo was taken. It's inscrutable, it's arbitrary and unexplained - really a bit of a shame.

Sorry, chuck, but I'm still running iOS 8 on my iPhone 5s, and here is a screenshot of the Photos album:

Can you explain what you are referring to?

GB

Wow, Gail. You really don't get it. That Photos thing you're pointing to is NOT an album. The albums are in the Albums tab (the tab on the bottom right). There used to be an album there called "Camera Roll" that had every photo on the device in a nice uniform grid, not broken up into Collections or Moments or whatever. Apple removed it in iOS 8. They soon realized this was a BIG mistake and have restored it in their next release and named it Photos. Again, this is NOT the Photoa tab you see at the bottom of the screen. This is a Photos ALBUM under the Albums tab. Got it? Most of us (with very few exceptions) do NOT want to see our photos divided up into Collections like you've shown here.

I have IOS 8.02, there is no camera roll in Albums. Where are you getting your information from?

CChuckc- I do not have an album named "photos" -- I updated to 8,0.2 -- what am I not seeing? I would also like to be able to view my photos in a continuous grid without the collections or moments or years etc... Thanks in advance!

chuckc192000 wrote:

Most of us (with very few exceptions) do NOT want to see our photos divided up into Collections like you've shown here.

You are talking for many millions of people? Or speculating? Please provide links.

Thanks in advance

Pete