IPAD2 very slow after IOS 8 upgrade

Maxipeg wrote:

So far, I haven't read a single report about a fully satisfactory recovery of an iPad 2 running iOS8. If you can bring forward a few users who will testify that their iPad 2 is running with no problems and at full speed (=like 7.1.1) after the upgrade to iOS8 (or after they went through a recommended troubleshooting process), I will believe that it can be done.

I've had a lot of people come back and tell me. In the beginning, I copied a couple of them for examples, and I still have them. I also have a couple of others after a few weeks later, too. Aside from those, because so many were being reported as good, I never bothered tracking them, but these that I have should be good enough. I'll look for them and post when I find them.

Having gone from unusable to sort of ok is a long way from good. I used to use cut and paste all the time to forward links. Haven't seen that work in weeks. I'm glad my ipad2 is sort of ok, but would like it back to normal.

pkurlander wrote:

Having gone from unusable to sort of ok is a long way from good.

I understand what you say about yours, but I can assure you that other users on this forum have gotten their iPads running like normal, not simply part-way there. Now, what that means for you ... is that it lets you know that if others are able to do that ... it is technically feasible for you, too.

Another way to state this idea, is that if I just found ONE iPad 2 model that worked perfectly fine on iOS 8.1 ... and then there were 100 other iPad 2 models that were barely working ... THAT one iPad 2, all by itself, would tell me that it's perfectly possible to have those 100 working as good as the ONE ... :-) ...

We're starting to border on the ridiculous. This thread started as a discussion -- among users, to be sure -- of problems many people are having with performance after upgrading to iOS 8. To summarize what I've learned so far, the best solution anyone has found is to wipe the iPad and put it back in "Factory iOS 8" condition running only Apple stock apps. At that point the iPad 2 runs sort of OK.... it is technically running, albeit very slowly (in my own case I'm seeing delays of up to 20-30 seconds simply to switch from portrait to landscape, and app load times are often worse, for instance). Once one starts to add common apps, like Dropbox, Google Drive, etc., performance degrades even farther. Many people on this forum would love to restore iOS 7 on their iPad 2 devices, but that is something Apple will not allow. The bottom line is that even running just the stock Apple apps, the iPad 2 is barely usable in a real world situation.

Does that more or less match what the rest of you have learned?

Now we've reached the point where we're reading about complaints about the direction of the thread? And of posts being deleted for violating TOS? Are you kidding me? If you're offended by the nature of these posts, then perhaps another thread would suit you. There are others that discuss poor performance in iOS 8.

The reality is that there are at least thousands of people who lost functionality in a perfectly fine device. The support team has assured us that there are millions of happy users out there, but from what I'm reading on this thread, nobody has been able to figure out what these users have done to make an iPad 2 usable (in real world scenarios) under iOS 8. How is it that they're happy?

Oh -- and I've learned that there are certain URLs one should use to provide feedback. I hope your experiences with feedback will be better than mine. I found the feedback form to be quite limiting, as they provide only a small space (max of 800 characters) in which you may comment. I assure you, I would love to provide many more words than the 800 max.

And finally, I've no doubt that someone will ultimately decide that my topic is off post, in violation of section A.3.b.12.3.2.333.2(f)(2)(i) of the TOS, or find some other anal retentive reason to be offended. If this post is deleted, I'd be grateful if some of you would try to summarize where we are on this problem from time to time...

seegeedubya wrote:

We're starting to border on the ridiculous. This thread started as a discussion --

AND it was right there that it "went off the rails" ... :-) ...

This is actually not a discussion forum for different topics even if it has to do with iPad and Apple. It is exclusively a forum where one users posts a description of a problem for purposes of getting a solution from another user, which the original poster can implement on his iPad himself.

To shorten it down for clarity, only two kinds of posts are for this forum ... (1) a user asking for a solution and (2) a user posting a solution ... that's it and that simple.

SO ... that's where it went off the rails ... at "discussion" ... :-) ...

You said that very well. I agree 100%. Resetting a device to factory settings is such a harsh way To resolve a problem. II'm sure many like myself are considered in the fixed column because we were thrilled to be reasonably functional again. Unless someone probes deeper and asks they would discover I'm still not happy with the performance and this experience has left me very disappointed in Apple.

seegeedubya wrote:

Now we've reached the point where we're reading about complaints about the direction of the thread? And of posts being deleted for violating TOS? Are you kidding me? If you're offended by the nature of these posts, then perhaps another thread would suit you. There are others that discuss poor performance in iOS 8.

or...............post within the Terms Of Use here that YOU agreed to or otherwise find another forum site that allows your posts.

Pete

seegeedubya wrote:

How in the **** is that a violation of the terms of service?

What's the "technical support question" --or-- if you're supplying answers ... what's the "technical support answer"?

@ Star Traveler, I appreciate that you are trying to justify your existence here, but these continuous rebuttals to valid posts might, just possibly, could be perceived as bordering on abusive and argumentative and they are certainly condescending.

Apple has already identified this as an issue, as outlined in the developer release note link for 8.1.1 relating to "increased stability and performance improvements for iPad 2 and iPhone 4s."

There are too many reports of the same issues from more sources than little forum. So please of us all a favour and drop the condescension by trying to insinuate that your are smarter than rest of us, you're not. If you know about a potential update then being transparent about make you a good little admin. I've never experienced, not ONE SINGLE TIME in the history of forums an admin with your tenacity for trying to prove others wrong.

And yes, I was being a bit condescending on purpose so you might actually know what it feels like.

And for everyone watching, my previous post was deleted by the admin after he replied with a long diatribe pointing out all the things I was wrong about.

Just sayin'

This will be deleted, too, I suspect.

drc_ wrote:

And for everyone watching, my previous post was deleted by the admin after he replied with a long diatribe ...

I am not an administrator or one of the moderators here, but I do push the Report Post button, which allows moderators to catch violators. The moderators don't have the time to read every single post here, so the report button does help them.

And you won't find the administrator or moderators engaging in conversations here ... that's not their job.

drc_ wrote:

... these continuous rebuttals to valid posts might, just possibly, could be perceived as bordering on abusive and argumentative and they are certainly condescending.

If a post is describing a problem "for the purpose" of asking for a solution that they can implement on their own iPad ... I don't say anything to that person except if I have a question about a symptom they are describing.

OR ... if a post is giving a solution that a user can implement on his iPad ... I don't say a thing about that.

THOSE TWO are your VALID POSTS.

On the other hand is someone is posting off-topic and not of those two "valid posts" up above, then you'll see me go off-topic right with that poster and stay with it ... :-) ...

I've never experienced, not ONE SINGLE TIME in the history of forums an admin with your tenacity for trying to prove others wrong.

Well ... you obviously don't know that this is a "user forum" and not an administrator forum or a moderator forum. I am neither of those two ... only a user.

BUT those posts have nothing to do with proving anyone wrong, but only in engaging someone if they go off-topic, that's it.

@drc_,

I wanted to say thank you for your post on iOS 8.1.1 and planned improvements for running on iPad 2 devices. That's the first time I've heard some positive information on this problem. Nice work; now we have something to go on.

I've already been banned once today, and I have no doubt that thank-you notes violate the Terms of Service , so I expect that our wonderful admins moderators users whatever will ban me again. I do hope this gets to you somehow.

I do think it a tad ironic that one of the few posts that was truly helpful was one that caused issues. Oops, there I go again, violating the TOS...

seegeedubya wrote:

That's the first time I've heard some positive information on this problem.

This is forum is exclusively for solutions asked for and solutions given, and as such, you're not going to get the worldwide news on everything Apple or iPad here. It's not for that here. And Developer stuff is controlled by a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, which would be violated here, plus the fact that the Terms say no "speculation" on this kind of stuff. All these terms of use are set up for a reason, and that is to keep things EXCLUSIVELY along the lines of solution asked for, and solution given ... and nothing more.

There is not a shortage of SPECULATION all over the Internet about Apple if you want, and most of it is totally useless anyway, but if you like speculation, you can get all you want on the Net, but not here.

Stephenapcarroll wrote:

I'm sure there is one Ipad2 out there working perfectly well.

The nice thing about a mass-produced device like the iPad 2 model ... and ... a mass-distributed OS like iOS 8.1 ... is that if a person finds JUST ONE DEVICE (of that model) which works fine, that means that they ALL have that same capability.

THAT is the encouraging news that all users of the iPad 2 model have ... by not merely finding ONE but having the vast majority working fine.

But all we need for PROOF that it can work fine is just ONE.