Window Size Problem with El Capitan

Since upgrading to El Capitan, Microsoft Outlook will not remember it's window size after I close and reopen, or quit and restart the program.

This problem did not occur with any previous operating systems.


Please help....

iMac, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 3, 2015 2:47 AM

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Jan 6, 2016 10:54 AM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

davesnothere -- My God, I think you may be right! I just reread what you said and perhaps I originally misunderstood, in which case apologies. It seems that if you close the window using the RED button you *can* then do exactly what I was trying to describe above: you can either reopen from the icon in the dock or cycle through open programmes until you have Outlook and then use the CMD-1 keyboard shortcut...and the window reopens at the size it should be!


At least, that is what it is doing for me right now.


It is undeniable that there is a bug but perhaps the bug or the conflict or the whatever is actually with the CMD-W (close window) function and as long as you avoid using this you can avoid the mystery shrinking window problem?

Jan 6, 2016 11:45 AM in response to Movieman40

Thanks for that but deleting PR-RAM was one of the first things I tried without success.


BUT: Can anyone please confirm this behavior I just discovered. It seems that the window size alternates with every fresh opening.


  • CMD+W to close. Click on dock icon -> small.
  • CMD+W again. Click on dock icon -> correct (larger) size again.


Tried this like 30 times and it continues to alternate correct, small, correct, small. Really strange. I can confirm that when closing the windows with the red x button it will always open in the correct size again.

Jan 6, 2016 11:54 AM in response to aero1247e

That's not my experience. My experience is that CMD-W, open in doc has been opening to the corrected size. I have now tried it well over 200x just because others were having issues. It's beginning to look like not everyone's set up is exhibiting the same behavior. For me, regardless of whether I'm hitting the red x in the window or CMD-W to close outlook, opening it back up in the dock opens to the corrected size.


I went so far as to make the window small, CMD-Q to set the window size, re-opening it to ensure that it comes up as the small size, made it large, CMD-Q to set the window size, opening it again to ensure that it was the large size followed by 50x of CMD-W and red x to close outlook. Each time, the window opens to the large size.


If it helps, I'm running a mid 2015 MBP 15" running El Capitan 10.11.2 and Outlook 15.17.1.


I had this version of outlook running on a 2011 MBP 15" running Yosemite and never had this issue. It's only when I went to the new laptop that this issue started popping up.

Jan 6, 2016 12:57 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

I agree Dave.

The issue is not with Outlook. Outlook has updated at least 2 or 3 times since this problem started.

I am running Outlook for Mac: 2011 version 14.5.9. That is the latest Outlook update.

The problem started with the introduction of OS X El Capitan. I am running version 10.11.2 (the latest version).

Before El Capitan, Outlook never had this problem.

It's a simple cause and effect in my opinion.

Apple needs to fix this...if they care.

Jan 7, 2016 1:01 AM in response to corvairkid

Dave: I think you're right -- the glitch doesn't exhibit the same effects for all users. There'd seem to be some other variables...


Corvairkid: I'm running Outlook 14.5.9 and this window size problem only began with El Cap., never before. I don't know whether it affects the calendar window in a similar way because I never use the calendar facility.


I have not experienced the problem with any other application windows at all.


For the moment I'm sticking with red button close and cycle through + CMD-1 to reopen at the right size because that's what I have always done and it's fast and intuitive.


It would be nice to think that at some point this problem will simply quietly disappear...

Jan 7, 2016 3:53 AM in response to alun severn

Yes.

Minimize/Hide to the Dock (yellow button) and then un-minimize seems to be the only viable work-around.

I'm sticking with that until Apple fixes it....could be a long wait. 😠


Also...anyone having problems with their Apple Calendars opening up short after first launch, there's a thread on it.

Perhaps if more people join, it will get some attention:

Why does the height of the Mac Calendar window reset with each launch?

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