iOS 10.1 Battery drain

Hey Sylvia. Go to settings, then Music. Turn off "show Apple Music, turn off Genius. And turn off Cellular data. That's the only settings I was able to find and turn off. That and removing the Facebook app seems to have worked for me. 6 hours of use and I'm at 72%. I think that's pretty good. Not using the Mophie. I want to see what the phone does when it gets down below 30%. Seems to be functioning normally. Amazing without replacing the battery! ;) Nobody is going to convince me to replace my battery when the phone was performing normally until I did the update.

How do you figure my battery is bad when I am not using the Mophie. Removed the Facebook app. Turned off music functions. And I have normal battery life as before the update? Sorry. You are wrong. The update is what caused the problems. Everything was fine until the update. Unless you think somehow believe it was all a coincidence. :D

"How do you figure my battery is bad when I am not using the Mophie. Removed the Facebook app. Turned off music functions."

Because you had to remove the Facebook App and music. The girl's iPhone was drained rapidly by Facebook. She removed it, problem is gone. However, hers is an iPhone 5 with a tired battery at 750+ cycles, which we know it is done. We will replace it soon. Have asked around friends with newer iPhones 6/6S, with Facebook Whatssup etc, iOS 10 and no issues whatsoever running it as before.

By removing Facebook and fiddling with it, you altered your device's amperage. That my friend is what is called a frequency response test. With less demand your device has less resistance (or what you would call drain) explained at the 3d link.

I also attached the PG example with CNET as a well known neither hardware nor software optimized app. It is wrecking havoc both on Android and iPhones; stressing the batteries and reducing their lives significantly.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/pokemon-go-battery-test-data-usage/

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/why_does_pokemon_go_rob_so_much_batte ry_power

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/testing_lithium_based_batteries

So when a new operating system is installed and re-pings the battery for operating range, it fails.

Again, remember that a battery can have a 90%-100% capacity/ 'healthy; resistance test, but still be fully defective at factory. Those tests are now on their dying industrial legs (frequency testing on its way). That was explained in a previous post.

Also remember that drain can happen; e.g. using GPS drains these faster; but shutdowns are not normal. And also. any high drain kills batteries.

Thank you so much! Just spoke with an Apple Senior Advisor and he gave me some great advice...he said my battery is fine and said I did not a new battery. I gathered Apple is aware of the problem. Told him there are people on the forum giving advice about battery change and such...he said I am doing the right thing by not following their suggestions. I asked him should I get a battery change and he said it was my choice, but I really don't need it. This is an OS problem and I am going to wait and see what they come up with. Thanks again for the help with the music app.

My 6 has been doing this shutdown thing since the 10 upgrade and I live in a warm climate. For the most part I think the bulk of the issue has to do with the OS rather than hardware. My current phone has never been overheated or in freezing conditions; it dies at 41, 36 percent and can last a very long time on 1 percent - though when you plug in it in a more accurate percentage shows.

Yet before the update I did not have to remove the Facebook app. Or turn off Music options. That tells me this new update is buggy and not running efficiently with at least these two apps. As an update. My phone ran normally down to 20~%. Put it back into the Mophie and charged it back up to almost 100% now. I did notice there are still problems although not as severe with the Facebook app removed. Remember. I had ZERO problems before the update. You can blame my battery. I'm not convinced. Especially since my phone had great battery life before the update.

rose, climate is one possible variable. Any for the following can affect a battery: heat (one summer day in the Iraqi desert), cold, repeated outdoor stuff. More often though, poor optimized apps, Pokemon Go/Facebook, drain, as well as factory issues (a few million a year leave factories defective). The #1 indicator that a Li Ion battery has issues is any shutdown in the 30% range, that figure being the anchor point for Li Ion health. Be it that particular battery could still have 86 or 100% health, 30-40% is the key spot. If some patch can help with that, all the better. If not, your options will narrow.

That battery life gauge inconsistency is the key I believe. I think the function is broken and is tricking the OS into thinking the battery is dead. When the OS thinks the battery is dead? It turns off. I think there are multiple problems here. Apps that don't run efficiently with this update. And a broken power monitoring system.

"Yet before the update I did not have to remove the Facebook app. Or turn off Music options. That tells me this new update is buggy and not running efficiently with at least these two apps. As an update. My phone ran normally down to 20~%. Put it back into the Mophie and charged it back up to almost 100% now. I did notice there are still problems although not as severe with the Facebook app removed. Remember. I had ZERO problems before the update. You can blame my battery. I'm not convinced."

Would you agree that, as an example, an user with 300 cycles on iOS 9, and uses the same apps, is operating his hardware in a certain electrical balance? Nothing new, lost or gained, same voltage print? think Plasma burn-in.

A new iOS, and apps, and heavy power demand (call it drain) changes that completely. The new iOS re-pings the battery's capacitors for responsiveness. Moves the operating ranges in different amperage. It is as fact as putting different fuel alter's your engine's timing. In a normal phone, you can reset or update the OS 50 times, leave it at 94% nightime and wake up with 90. Or shut it down at 83 and wake it up 24 hrs later with 83.

So what you called an update i call a fundamental change to your iPhone's design parameters. It's not just an update, sorry. A new OS, new everything, timings, etc. Works for most people, unluckily, not for you.

"That battery life gauge inconsistency is the key I believe. I think the function is broken and is tricking the OS into thinking the battery is dead. When the OS thinks the battery is dead? It turns off. I think there are multiple problems here. Apps that don't run efficiently with this update. And a broken power monitoring system."

malathius, the battery gauge is built ON the battery. A dozen components, own circuit board, own sensors, own circuit breakers, built-in safety, gauges, own mini OS! And yes they interact with the iOS and report to it. So long before something is wrong with the iOS programming, many things can also go wrong - and they do at the factory- with millions of these each year. Two- four million tier one batteries are manufactured every day.

I'll agree with that. But unlike yourself. I blame the update. Not the battery. Sure. Us 6 users have been using our batteries for a couple of years. So naturally the batteries have some wear on them. But when they release an update that increases a demand on the batteries to the point of causing a problem? You can call it what you want. I call it poorly written software. Also how do you explain the erratic and what seems to be inaccurate battery gauge? That's software related. We had none of these problems before the update. It's not like Apple hasn't been dropping the ball lately with their updates. They seem to be getting worse and worse. Every update introduces a bunch of new bugs. They need to get their act together or people will jump ship. That's one reason why I haven't upgraded to the 7. I'm waiting to see what happens with the OS. Plus my phone was great until this update. Now I'm considering taking my business elsewhere. And I'm an original iPhone user!

Be it I never had any Apple training or certification, I am moderately able to repair friend's or relative's minor software glitches. Have seen them frequently, each iOS having its particular quirks,. Factory reset and clean app reset do it 90%+ of times. Have seen freezing/sluggish/barely open iPhones fixed with a diagnostic mode and factory reset. it also addresses basic drain, etc, often apps are culprit; perhaps some never closed in the background.

But what the people describe here is very unusual and far more difficult. 84% shutdown? The few times I ever saw that, in any devices, turned out (even in PC's) a hardware issue.

I hope a patch fixes your issues, but it just does not look as simple as hope makes it.

If you also accept that a company going from 10 million iphones a year to 250 million, and exceeding 500 million users has more problems than year 1, 2 or even 5, that is too simple and easy to understand.

If you wish to jump ship, you have many options:

http://androidforums.com/threads/again-battery-draining-extremely-fast.890826/

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/716100-s7-edge-battery-d rain-please-help-3.html

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6/712248-galaxy-s6-battery-drai n.html

http://androidforums.com/threads/severe-battery-drain.1026033/

http://androidforums.com/threads/again-battery-draining-extremely-fast.890826/

"I'll agree with that. But unlike yourself. I blame the update. Not the battery." the reason I find it easy to blame the battery it is it being the most fragile component in any smartphone and the first reason for weird behavior. Finicky. 1-2 mm back-poket bend in the larger phone formats can toast one (and why 6S/7 have now such high torsional rigidity to prevent that). Those batteries are filled with a chemical gel that is super sensitive to myriad of factors: drain, pressure temperature, amperage, chip quality etc. The rest of any iPhone is, quite frankly, built like a tank.

Malanthius wrote:

Hey. At least with an android phone I can replace the battery very easily myself. ;)

More and more phones with Android OS have non-removable batteries. Most of the recent upper-end Samsungs and Motorolas do not have a removable battery and haven't for years. The only top tier phone I can think of with a removable battery is one by LG.