iOS 10.1 Battery drain

The app I have on my phone still says 0.9% wear, but I trust coconut battery more - I used it and it accurately predicted the wear on my failed battery.

It is a waiting game with me, mind you I am enjoying playing Pokemon Go like a madman and am now on level 27 without cheating.

Unbelievably, yes, you used to be able to use GPS spoofing apps/hardware to trick the Pokemon Go app into believing it was somewhere else in the world.

I hate cheats.

Anyway, will keep feeding back my findings. As you rightly say, I wonder what Apple is not telling us, it's loyal customers?

Adrian.

definitely your love for Pokemon Go trumps any other concerns. At least then, avoid using it too aggressively below 30-40%? My speculative concern is that the error may be, in some cases, on the logic/circuit side and some specific component, by manufacturer, shorts or does not turn off; draining the battery. A few years ago Apple returned 5-8 million iPhones 5 to Foxconn. recently, the 6S battery recall was also about faulty hardware.

Nope, I am playing it till the phone battery dies. As I said, I am putting this new battery to the sword.

I came home after a playing session yesterday with 1% battery and it lasted about 30 minutes then shut down.

After all, isn't that what a battery is for?

Use it until it has no charge, then recharge it?

This in itself should not cause the battery any problems I would have thought.

I am showing 16 load cycles on coconut battery so nowhere near one full charge a day.

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/

Adrian.

I admire tons your experimental stubbornness. I truly do. There is one game I play occasionally on an iPad, it will drain it in 3 hours. Used to play 2-3 games on an iPhone 5, also a few hours. I now avoid games because school comes first, but no longer on iPhone. I may play occasionally on an iPad. So the only think, experimentally speaking, I am not sure, is if you are using the PG heavy demand as a benchmark for your battery charge, versus a normal day use. PG and other games can drain it 4x faster and this does not tell us if there is bad drain or just heavy demand...

Thanks, been there, done the school and university thing so back to playing games for me.

In between work of course, which involves a fair bit of walking so ideal for Pokemon Go and battery testing.

🙂

I hate now knowing why a problem occurs, and more so when the manufacturer doesn't know either.

Typical, my family has been running iPhones without any problems for quite a number of years, I jump a 5 year ship from Android (after a long time on Nokia before that - best phones in the world) and then this happens.

Battery drain was the primary reason I left Android.

Serves me right, though at least my phone has not caught fire.

Yet.

Adrian.

Nokia phones dominate in the middle east. Good guys and bad guys alike use them in the desert. The removable battery, easily replaceable, and low drain make them desirable, as the heat kills smartphones with higher demand. Then again not too much pokemon go in the desert...

Mine seems like its back to normal today. 100% at 8.30am and 93% at 6pm. Pretty good and much, much better than i have seen over the past week.

It could have beeen the new batter (im pretty sure that has helped) bu ti did two restores yesterday. The first didn't seem to make much difference so i did it again, exactly the same way, and since then the battery has been fine.

I am facing another issue, in that i keep finding i have no Phone signal. This cant be to do with coverage, as the phone isnt re connecting when im out. I wonder if this is connected with the battery drain. I know when im away from the city my battery drains quicker as its searching for a good signal, maybe the two are connected, although this issue didn't seem to effect the battery today.

So to follow up on my previous post:

I had a 2 year old iPhone 6 64gb which experienced rapid battery drain upon upgrading the iOS to 10.1 and later to 10.2. The same issues persist to this day.

My Sprint contract anniversary was on 12/16/16, and I bought a new iPhone 6s 128gb which came shipped with 10.1.1 software. Since using it nearly a month now, I have had no issues with rapid battery drain, etc. That said, I have not taken a chance and upgraded to iOs 10.2, either.

I don't know the new phone's manufacture date, but I guess it would have to be in the Fall of 2016 at least because it shipped with iOs 10.1.1? So what is different? Is apple shipping iPhones with better batteries? One's that are not adversely affected by whatever "bugs" are in 10x.x software? People who bought the 7/7plus and have battery issues would argue no.

My 6s has seen plenty of cold Massachusetts weather this winter thus far. I've actively used Facebook and music apps and the 6s still seems to function as it should. My battery life app reports 0.0% battery wear level and capacity 2800/2800mAh through today.

In regards to my iPhone 6, which is now being used by my teenage son, I am resigned to waiting for a software upgrade fix (10.3?), and offer to change the battery for free by Apple, or if the 6 becomes next to unusable, changing the battery at my own cost.

One last comment, I can understand that the lifespan of Lithium ion batteries is finite, but if Apple is claiming (now) that the batteries naturally wear out over the course of 1-2 years, they should make changing the batteries more user friendly (not requiring a genius bar visit), in my opinion.

This an update...

Previous background: opened a case about random rapid drain/30-40% shutdowns on my 6 that is 1.5 years old. Apple tested battery and said it is fine. They suggested a backup and restore. I'd been reticent to do this because so many folks in this forum posted it didn't help.

This weekend I did the backup/restore. What I have noticed is this:

1. Battery is much better when on wifi at home or work. Ex: I've been using the phone for email, some videos, and an occasional app for 4 hours and still at about 75% today.

2. Outside world sans wifi, I am seeing RAPID drain. No apps continually running, background refresh off on just about everything, location services turned off all all except when using. Kill all apps as soon as I am done and in an hour battery would drop to 75%. I have not yet been out with below 40% battery to see if shutoff still occurs.

"I don't know the new phone's manufacture date, but I guess it would have to be in the Fall of 2016 at least because it shipped with iOs 10.1.1? So what is different? Is apple shipping iPhones with better batteries? One's that are not adversely affected by whatever "bugs" are in 10x.x software? People who bought the 7/7plus and have battery issues would argue no. " Apple has returned to manufacturers millions of iPhones. E.G. QC issues with the 5, 8 million returns. If you just take the scale of the 6S, over 250 million produced last year, and take for granted that one manufacturer Z (out of, say, 10) made a few million batteries for the 5, 5S, 6, 6S and 7 but not Plus, you can see how the forensics become complex; batch, ser#, manufacturer etc. All mobile device companies are pursuing special power management features; additional controller or power chips; in the next 12-14 months you are very likely to recall what I just wrote. For sure once a bug is discovered, e.g. 6S faulty batteries, a battery manufacturer seeks to correct it. Cannot really argue that Li Ion batteries are getting any better, even if both Samsung and Apple buy good quality parts. It may very well be that 1-3% unlucky draw. 4 million smartphone batteries, minimum, are made every day.

As for software, if you program the code to activate the circuit breaker at, say, -600mAh/hr (or a rapid drain of 3 hours on a 1,800mAh battery), then any phone at that discharge level would shut off. Ideally one wants to target faulty batteries for safety reasons, prevent battery overheating, which is one minor step away from a dreaded fire. Samsung had 55 incidents, 17billion losss... But, if you have Pokemon Go, GPS, and a bunch of other fancy features increasing demand, on a normal phone, I can see how the software would cut of power. Yes, it can be controlled by software. Either case, a good battery can handle a high demand without overheating.

Battery replacement, the industry is moving to sealing all devices. Some people (ask Mjolscure) get kits and in 10 minutes swapped their battery with a 3d part manufacturer. In your iPhone 6 case in your son's hands, that would make you loose the possible replacement with Apple.

Massachusets is summer versus my friends -20 to -30 F in Canada. You are fine. A few snowmobille sessions and any mobile can be bricked.

The sudden shutdown was featured in german television:

http://www.sat1gold.at/leben-geniessen/service/mega-nervig-darum-schaltet-sich-e uer-iphone-aus-bevor-der-akku-leer-ist-clip

They have suggested to calibrate the battery. I have tried to calibrate the battery, i.e. letting the battery drain - charge it until 100% and wait 3 more hours and do not touch it, two or three times. At the moment the sudden shutoff is quite seldom and i see something new. My Iphone 6 S Plus will show 1% and then run for another 30-60 minutes. Quite strange. And: I am on IOS 10.2. - However i am not really happy because the battery consumption is quite fast and in the past the sudden shut-off showed up every time i was outside and it was could and i was using battery intensive apps (ingress, facebook live stream, camera - video)..

Hoping for a software fix soon or I will get myself a Samsung or Huwaii P9 which should have better batteries a friend told me..

It is unfortunate that you have to spend so much time on the issue, and doubting your device. Assuming that you already tried Apple Support (Phone, facebook or twitter), calibration, reset and nothing work, all you need to know is that 9 users that replaced their battery resolved the issue, success. One was on the 6S recall. Some had warranty, others did it as a last resort. The 9 users also had symptoms starting with iOS 10, but their batteries turned out defective as replacements resolved the issue.

When i updated to 10.1.1 my iPhone 6 begun shuting down at 30% - 40%. I took it to Vodafone (my operator) and they send iPhone to Apple repair center. I receved a message saying my battery was OK e i send it another 2 times allways with the same result. Now in 10.2 my phone doesn't shutdown but when i'm using it lose baterry very fast and when i put it to charge it goes from 17% to 36% instantly. If the batery like Apple repair center say is in good condition the problem is with software. Now i have a faulty iPhone and Apple refuse to change it. I don't know what can i do more 😟

"I receved a message saying my battery was OK e i send it another 2 times allways with the same result. Now in 10.2 my phone doesn't shutdown but when i'm using it lose baterry very fast and when i put it to charge it goes from 17% to 36% instantly. If the batery like Apple repair center say is in good condition the problem is with software. Now i have a faulty iPhone and Apple refuse to change it. I don't know what can i do more " Reading your post almost made me angry for the runaround this issue is giving you. A first suggestion is, outside Vodafone, have you contacted Apple support for an incident number? Even if outside warranty, this number may give you replacement/reimbursement rights further down the road.

Now, if you assume it is hardware, and ref your test results, you might not feel bad hearing the following. Of all the million of 6S recalls, not only they passed the iPhone factory test, but the likely passed all the genius tests before the store replaced the batteries under the defect recall (they always do a diagnostic before and after replacement). See the issue? The test is only a capacity test they call it 'health', i.e. how many cycles / mAh max capacity. It is not an actual health and performance test which would require a special procedure with the battery outside, connected to new gizmos that the smartphone industry does not use. So a battery can indicate 100% health yet be the defect recall, or just yours not yet under a recall. even the geniuses will clarify that in store, it is basic Li Ion electrical engineering aspect. Apple released the 10.2 tools to collect information on these faulty parameters, and the issue may be wide (googling will provide you more insight).

So this is why Adrian whom posted here went once, was told 'fine' at 90% in November, and 2 months later his battery was dead, or Appleyoda whom not too long ago had a great battery then recently in store was told "dead battery." Anyhow, 9 people here took a leap of faith and replaced their batteries, and the issue appears magically gone. This number may be small but a 100% resolution, which will interest several people.

Am also providing you two additional links, hopefully they will reassure you that lots of tech gurus are tracking it, and pressuring for official announcements.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/you-can-change-your-iphone-battery-151208103.html

http://fortune.com/2016/12/27/apple-iphone-6-battery-problem/

This same thing is happening to my iPhone 6s! I have a second appointment this upcoming week at an Apple Store! How were you able to get a new phone? So far they are telling me that I have to replace it myself, but it is not my fault if it is a hardware issue!