iOS 10.1 Battery drain

thank you my phone is now working, the repair center confirmed that they often see batteries over 500 cycles do the same, this is my first iPhone keeping more than a year and using more. Not Apples fault but I wish a longer battery. I also paid the actual OEM, you are right, we used to test fakes and they would catch fire in the lab at CCNY. They are also much softer, they bend like a soft chocolate bar. what did you end up doing with your degree?

"they often see batteries over 500 cycles do the same, this is my first iPhone keeping more than a year and using more" wow thanks for the feedback, glad it helped. The college science was a phase, I woke up one morning stomach sick at the idea of doing circuits math or science all my life. So I went for arts and science, history IR and am happy to serve greater causes than me, sports, or volunteer sometimes and help. I still use science, or remember it, it helps with projects. Curious, about your 6S, did it ever overheat, do you remember dropping it recently before the issues..

Interesting how it sounds like you did a hobby. No, it never overheated. You are good, 😉 I dropped it twice days before on a previous work trip, on the hotel bathroom tiles. I had it on the counter and reaching for the towels I tripped it. I did it again the last day, and I remember checking to see if the screen was damaged, having just a thin case. It is your SE comment that clued me that I wanted it for being strong, but I found its screen too small. Do you think the battery shook or bent a bit? I'll get a thicker impact case, any ideas?

I know the kick thing but darn darn darn I was in the shower, hand reaching lol 😁 I will look for a high G case and if anymore issues I will return, but I'm sure it works now. Crazy pic, that one is done even if working after!!!

Yep, done. The next time that phone pic owner installs an iOS version, it should fail calibrations, might start acting up. He/she may realize, or come here to insult Apple, Android, me, the world, never once think that accidents, fake chargers, one hot day, a few high drain 100-0 cycles or just 600+ cycles can ever move their circuit out of spec.. You are welcome.

Hello everyone, good to be back after having been put in the "Naughty Corner" for a week.

Anyway, just to update where I am with my Pokemon Go experiment on my replaced-under-warranty battery.

Actually, surprisingly well. I had one crash before my week off but no more crashes.

I visited the Apple reseller here in Gibraltar and carried out my self-imposed monthly check on my phone, battery reports as good.

Phone currently on 37 load cycles.

So, I guess I will post back next month, I am still draining it to 0% every day, my aim now is to see what the real life in cycles of an iPhone battery is when completely discharged and charged every day.

No extremes of temperature, physical damage and exclusively using an approved Apple charger.

I see someone from Nicosia, Cyprus is here - not wanting to divert from the thread - but it looks like Apple have removed both Nicosia (in fact the whole of Cyprus) and Gibraltar from the world map, you cannot even add them in on the weather app nor does it display the local weather.

Worked fine on IOS 9 back in September.

Perhaps we complain too much.

🙂

Adrian.

Greetings Adrian, I was just just wondering what happened to you, I guess it was your last petition email. Don't do that! You are a great Dr Who experiment and missed your reports. Wondered maybe you caught a rare rare Pokemon? So, questions. Many weeks ago you wrote that if you get TWO good weeks, you will declare your experiment and repair successful. Are you there? Caught any pokemons? What happened to get that single shutdown?

As for the Nicoasian lad, whatever is going on I hope he gets access to support or a store and have his Brightness issue fixed. Did they not open an Apple store there?

HI Belisarius, going well Pokemon wise, I am on my 2nd Dragonite and Gyarados.

I also hatched a Pichu and am walking my buddy Togepi so I can evolve it into Togetic.

Thanks for asking, I currently occupy 2 Gyms for Team Mystic, but there is a large turnover in the Gyms here in Gibraltar!

I believe there are multiple issues happening here - faulty batteries being one of them, iOS 10 being the other.

As you rightly point out, no manufacturer has ever come clean as to how long a battery should last, whether that be in terms of days/months/years or load cycles.

With my Demolition Derby battery experiment, I am benchmarking my 6s.

Brand new battery, from 100% to 0% every day, non-stop. When it dies, that is how long an iPhone 6s battery lasts when used completely in one day.

No matter what anybody else says.

Perhaps Apple can use these stats if they are going to start making their own batteries?

For a premium phone, I would expect 2 years as a minimum under normal circumstances.

Maybe I am expecting too much?

Adrian.

Congrats on 22 years, am working on the 2nd together. Here is a link read, curious what that app tells about your wives http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-check-your-iPhone-battery-cycle-count-the- super-easy-way_id81944

Did you track what it was on your wife's before the upgrade?

I checked last night and my Gf's 5 is over 900 cycles now, reports 69%. She expects it to start acting any second now , but no weird behavior with any of the 10 versions. Either case her iOS 10 version is the same 9 architecture, 8 etc. Also she wanted a new phone to get 3 more hours of life, but is convinced that a normal repair/maintenance will increase it. She dreams of an iPhone named 9, she loves that number 9.

As for your conclusion, have read enough to have my own but cannot post it here, might get me a naughty corner as well. There are press releases out there tracking Apple reports of shortage of iPhone 6 (not 6S) replacement batteries. Two users had the phone replaced after being told that the store did not have batteries. I am used to reading about initial launch shortages, never on parts 18 months after.

Unfortunately I did not track her charging cycles, that sounds a bit dodgy that statement.

🙂

Apparently in the U.K. the average marriage lasts just over 2 years, that is very sad.

A relationship is meant to last, you have ups and downs but you work with it, I am pretty dogged and persistent and never give up, be it wife or iPhone.

See you later, supper calls.

Adrian.

Of course programming is key to safety parameters. But the trigger still has to be circuit tripping the safety. Apple stated that the shutdown purpose is to protect electronics. Programmed, yes, but been so since many iOSes. Checout 5 videos. Or, another way of looking at it, remove shutdown parameters but if any phone drain 30-0 in 10 minutes, that is still not normal nor safe. A user might never know. Samsung, a reference giant, got it badly wrong by avoiding fail-safes.

Have a go at Samsung's report, released last monday, what do you think?

The old Macbook Pros 2008, those batteries rated for 400 cycles, 3-4 hours, so 2 cycles a day easy. 1.5 years, each new battery cost me 160$. Fake ones worked days or weeks at most. Now, Apple pushed MBP batteries to 1000 cycles, and 10-15 hrs per cycle. Have yet to expire one.

iPhones, from 10 million shipped first year to 300+ per year. What if a mid-Pacific cargo ship carrying 20 million batteries from China to North America overheats for a week? I hope one day Apple makes its own batteries, with strict control, but it is a multi-billion $ question that only Apple can address.

It's very interesting that apple yes not publicly acknowledged this specific bug about the battery drain. What really ****** me off is if you "google" this issue with phones shutting off at about 10%, 30% or 26% battery life this issue existed way back since about 2013 at least for me... That's when my iPhone 5s was doing the same thing about a month out of warranty when i upgraded to IOS 8... I brought my iPhone 5s to apple here in Chicago at the Lincoln Park store and they ran a bunch of tests and found nothing out of the ordinary but insisted there was a issue they could not pinpoint since they witnessed it shut off as they where conducting tests. Unfortunately they where not able to warranty it but can still "help me" and offered a exchange for a refurbished one if i paid $300... I had no choice and at that time i did not have a steady job and had to choose a replacement phone of eat that week... I really hope a class action lawsuit gets started because even though I am a fan of apple products that is the only way to get the truth about this battery issue...

"this issue with phones shutting off at about 10%, 30% or 26% battery life this issue existed way back since about 2013 at least for me..." heartfelt truth, amen. It is as you say. I had a 5 do exactly that the day I upgraded to 7- but it was a defective battery issue gone with replacement, and lasted another 2 years. And if you google 'Android shutdown', Android 30 percent, battery problem or ' Android drain' you get 3-7 million hits per search query. Perhaps like that girl wrote earlier, she suggested an Apple battery management App. Hopefully next time you do not have to make another choice like that. But what is good about your deduction, is that the architecture is the same several iOS with 64 bits.

In Samsung ATL, investigators "found welding defects and a lack of protective tape in some battery cells." So both SDI and ATL had issues, but the SDI designs issues were bad. And yes, Pixel was launched in October and already listed links to 30% shutdown issues. 3 months after release! If anything, you just concurred with something I wrote for a while, that there is no universal consistency to these soft textured gel containing batteries, other than the way they go bad. iOS is just a bystander. Caveat- cheaper batteries can be bad. There is a nice iPhone 5 youtube battery video made by an Apple Service Center, UK, showing counterfit, new minty looking fakes with 700 cycles!!! I can only presume that the fakers re-used older control module and kept the data count!!!

Anyway, I provided feedback suggesting better longer lasting batteries, management etc. Is it not nigh in Gibralatar?

ty for the suggestion, I shall read this book. Reviews say what some of us have known for a long time. I think Americans should be more protective of their # 1 company, when so many others just try to rip or copy it. In Korea, workers realizing they made a mistake will feel terrible shame, collectively. In Japan, they also feel deep dishonor for their name and families - perfectionism is pride. In China, some will laugh and shout 'foolya!' remembering they did not insert safety tape or cut on it to cheat! In some places those plants treat their workers so badly some silently mess up with the lines. If they can fool you, they will- and you get 99 cents adapters known to short. Chips, RAM, SSDs tend to be assembled by robotic lines outside China so human errors or deliberate missteps are very unlikely. The US will not allow Intel to make chips in China. If one day Apple assumes production of mobile batteries, it will be a major evolution IMO.