Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

Maybe you should let Apple know about this by posting at Feedback - Aperture - Apple

I wonder why Apple don't sell Aperture to another developer?

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To David Strait.... 50,000 pics sounds daunting. I was delaying scanning my old boxes of photos because it was just taking too long on my Nikon flat-bed scanner. After a couple of years of doing nothing, I bought a Fujitsu ScanSnap iX500.... not as good scans as you'll get off a professional flat bed, but for most of my holiday snaps it's been absolutely perfect, and meant the difference between getting them digitised or leaving them in the box...😁

600 dpi setting (top) works great, and it flies through the scanning! Good luck to you.

David Strait wrote:

I include all this information in the photo so I can locate the photos on a map, by date, person, etc. Aperture adds the “face names” as keywords on export — which is one reason I want to finish the project in Aperture. All this “imbedded information” makes the photos independent of a specific photo program. Any decent photo DAM will use the embedded location, date, description and keywords.

David, you're sure keywords and geotags will stick with the images if I move to new software? I haven't had time to research this, I've just been hunkered down with Aperture, but my biggest concern is keeping this metadata. I do a lot of botanical photography so I'm labeling the species of plants, but also attributes of the photos, if its a leaf, flower, stem, etc. I then use these photos for a variety of purposes, print materials, web, presentations, hopefully a book someday, etc. I've put so much work into this I'm terrified to loose it all, and I need a program where tagging and searching based on those tags is streamlined. Lightroom didn't seem like that was a focus... I don't touch up most of my photos, but I add descriptions, keywords, geotags for every one in a very systematic way.

Maybe I'll eventually give Capture One a try. But it looks like I can hunker down with my current MacBook Pro and High Sierra for a few more years!

Hi

I upgraded to OS 10.13.1 a few days ago, and now find that Aperture is very poor shape. The OS thinks it is open but there is no screen display. I can not restart the computer because "Aperture is open". For the same reason, I can not delete Aperture from my drive and restore from backup. Tried changing the name of the file, but did not get anywhere, so changed it back.

About a year ago after an OS upgrade Aperture became unstable, but worked at times. I mentioned this to the Apple-Shop techo when I was there for a different problem. He took the computer away and did something which fixed the issue. Perhaps I should try that again.

I am running Aperture on an old 2008 Mac Pro in High Sierra,Sierra and El Capitan and there is no problem with running it, there are a few quirks which have been noted before here, but the app should run.

So if you are experiencing problems you may look into what could be running on your mac that might be causing the issues you mention. You can download this app, http://etrecheck.com/ run it and post the results back here. The app provides a snapshot of what is running on your mac and helps with diagnosis, no personal data is included in the report. The app is recommended often in these forums and may just save you from wasting your money down the techs.

First your mac has been up for 12 days, time to shut it down. Hold the power button down until it shuts down, may take a few seconds. Restart, see if that helps in any way.

When you upgraded to 10.13.1 did you check that your third party apps have updates so they will run under High Sierra.

You have installed Seagate software, there is no need to do this and this could be interfering with your functionality, macs don't need to install drive manufacturer software for the drives to function correctly, check with Seagate on how to uninstall there software thoroughly.

You have a lot of Login Items, do you need all of these apps running as soon as you start your mac up, these are just eating resources, if you can reduce the number of Login Items it may help. System Preferences> Users & Groups>Login Items, select the item(s) you wish to remove and click on the minus button.

I have upgraded my MBA to High Sierra and my Aperture got problem. Many functions are still working fine except Clone and Retouch brush: After 3 mouse clicks Aperture just quit unexpectedly under retouch (or cloning mode). I have to learn to coop with it by using only 2 brush strokes then have to resize the brush and continue again. If I forgot to resize after 2 strokes, it crash. Anyone have the same problem?

Before It was fine for me, I've been using Aperture for 6 years and still want to stay with it. But if this problem can't be fixed then may be I have to move to LR.

Correct, leaving professionals with horrendous legacy issues. My biggest issue with moving to a new application is that I've yet to find a package that will seamlessly retain all of my past image adjustments. Photography is by it's very nature archival. You frequently want to go back in time and make corrections, slight adjustments, or tailor an old image for a new purpose. This isn't a big deal for my everyday photos where I'm making a couple of quick adjustments for the web. But for gallery work I find myself making hundreds of brushed adjustments (and, sometimes, thousands of retouch strokes) to every piece. Unless a new package can completely import all of Aperture's adjustments without deviation, I have to maintain a working copy of Aperture on at least one machine. I'd like for that to be on Apple's latest hardware so I can benefit from faster processing, but that's sadly not the case.

I wish Apple would either sell the Aperture source to a 3rd party developer or make it open source.

I have, on several occasions, though it's largely a pipe dream as Photos does borrow on some of the code originally in Aperture, so it's unlikely they would release that code to a 3rd party.

Apple's focus, today, tends towards cross platform compatibility, where they aspire to have apps run similarly on desktops, laptops, and mobile devices. This strategy has certain key business advantages, but inevitably results in severe technical shortcomings, especially to more powerful and potentially feature rich platforms. So features vanish or are dumbed down in an effort to find a (un)happy medium.

I've often wondered why Apple supports these discussion, but doesn't seem to read/listen to what's said here

Because it's the cheapest product support they've got.

As to replacing Aperture: there is no perfect solution, there's only the next best thing. Anyone waiting for perfect is just wasting time. Perfect is not coming. Aperture is not coming back, they're not giving the code to somebody else - and remember that code is 5 years and how many generations behind Lr and CO now? So, it's all pipe dreaming...

Pick the next best for you and get on with it.

Bought it today, fiddled for a few hours. Luminar 2018 seems pretty lightweight compared to Aperture.

Some nice effects but no EXIF info..... will carry on and cross fingers.

I, too, am watching Luminar with great interest.

They are supposedly working on some sort DAM module to be released next year.

DAM is the Aperture feature I miss most.

I tried a few, Macphun software being my favourite, but I can use some of their stuff as a plug-in for Aperture which is good, but I came back to Aperture mainly for it's ease of use and for the way I can manage my photo collection.

Great discussion - I absolutely, positively, hate hate hate Photos. I still use Aperture [so far on Sierra] on my Mini, iMac and MacbookPro. So far so good. I have too many images on too many harddrives and my plan is to start going through them [most are in a variety of Aplibraries, and some are duplicated too much] and delete as much as I can and save the RAW or improved versions to TIFF to a separate drive until I decide what can replace Aperture. I use MacPhun Luminar [and Noiseless, Tonality etc] to work on photos and have PSElements but haven't used it for quite some time. Given the reports that High Sierra doesn't destroy Aperture, I'll probably upgrade when I need to = I really don't see the need to do it now, Sierra works fine for me.

Sounds like the plan to go thru and save best images in 'original' form is best while continuing to use Aperture until something comes along. Thanks to all for the discussion and explanations.

All imaging software will have it's quirks and benefits.

I personally find working in the Aperture space more enjoyable. I know I will change to another DAM someday.

I have used Capture One in a pro studio, great software. I do try Lightroom from time to time and that's my decision made again and again (not for me).

I do see other DAM software on the horizon, Affinity mentioned doing a DAM awhile ago (still waiting), 'ACD See' looks to have potential and today I see 'On1 Photo RAW', again looking good.