Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

Hi,


This is just feedback back to the Aperture community.


I updated my MacBook Air (2014) to the latest macOS 10.13, all seems good with Aperture. Adjustments look fine, loupe, importing, exporting.

If I come across any issues, I'll post back.


I do have a Mac Pro (2010 SSD w/ Apple RAID) to update. That'll wait until the WACOM drivers are released end of Oct.


I'm still waiting on a good alternative to Aperture...

Currently the ACD See app (although well spec'd for Windows) has very good potential. Currently there is a beta for Mac users.

I will still check in on Capture One / Lightroom (?7) on occasion.


ATM Aperture is still working (for now) 😎

Posted on Sep 26, 2017 5:48 AM

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Posted on Sep 27, 2017 11:54 AM

I do not have the time to learn something else. Aperture is so perfect for me. When an OS version comes out that breaks it, I will cease upgrading my Mac.

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Nov 26, 2017 3:58 AM in response to marti h

The migration from Aperture to Photos created a separate Photos Library. It renames the filename extension of your Aperture library from ".aplibrary" to ".migratedaplibrary". Select your Aperture Library in the Finder and change the filename extension back to ".aplibrary", then double click the renamed Aperture Library to open it again in Aperture. Or did you delete the Aperture Library?

Nov 26, 2017 9:30 AM in response to léonie

Truthfully, I have no idea what happened to the Aperture library. The 1st time I opened it & got only a few projects, I reloaded the library I had backed up on the desk top before switching to Sierra & it was fine. After that something automatically opened Photos & all my projects were in there & then I couldn't get them back into Aperture. Last night I restored the Library from Time Machine & now have all the photos under Library 2, but only a few of the Projects. I'm sure a lot of this is user error, since I don't understand how all this works. So, it's not a problem with Aperture per se & my husband loves it (he's the photographer), but it is a problem with the two programs running under Sierra for low level, non-techies, like me. Never had this problem with Yosemite. Thanks for your help!

Nov 29, 2017 9:39 AM in response to David Strait

David Strait wrote:



I include all this information in the photo so I can locate the photos on a map, by date, person, etc. Aperture adds the “face names” as keywords on export — which is one reason I want to finish the project in Aperture. All this “imbedded information” makes the photos independent of a specific photo program. Any decent photo DAM will use the embedded location, date, description and keywords.



David, you're sure keywords and geotags will stick with the images if I move to new software? I haven't had time to research this, I've just been hunkered down with Aperture, but my biggest concern is keeping this metadata. I do a lot of botanical photography so I'm labeling the species of plants, but also attributes of the photos, if its a leaf, flower, stem, etc. I then use these photos for a variety of purposes, print materials, web, presentations, hopefully a book someday, etc. I've put so much work into this I'm terrified to loose it all, and I need a program where tagging and searching based on those tags is streamlined. Lightroom didn't seem like that was a focus... I don't touch up most of my photos, but I add descriptions, keywords, geotags for every one in a very systematic way.


Maybe I'll eventually give Capture One a try. But it looks like I can hunker down with my current MacBook Pro and High Sierra for a few more years!

Nov 29, 2017 9:46 AM in response to ArisaemaDracontium

The keywords will be embedded in the IPTC data when you export from Aperture, but if you are using hierarchical keywords like "Plants > Araceae > Arisaema", it will be unlikely that the new application you are migrating to, will understand them. You will have to test this before making the move. if necessary, flatten your keywords hierarchy before exporting your photos.

Nov 29, 2017 12:29 PM in response to ArisaemaDracontium

ArisaemaDracontium

Yes... The keywords, geotags and any standard (IPTC) info will stay with the exported photo. However, custom Aperture tags should be converted to keywords first. Also, as Leonie mentioned, I also flattened my keywords before exporting. All my info shows up in Lightroom without problems. Of course, the "Face" locations are not preserved on the image, but at least the face name is preserved as a keyword.


David

Dec 1, 2017 12:49 AM in response to Gary O'Kane

It's a real shame that, while High Sierra provides system support for Olympus ORF files from the OMD EM1 mark 2, Aperture cannot access them. Given the system support, one would think that we are just a little bit of Aperture code away from being able to do it so I wonder whether some evil genius could make it work with a patch. As someone else pointed out on this thread, why on earth don't Apple just sell the rights to Aperture to some 3rd party, who could then keep up development? It's clear from comments both here and elsewhere that thousands/millions of photographers want to stay with Aperture and haven't found anything else to rival its all-round abilities, especially in management, so what a pity to let it die! Or, even better, reverse the decision to kill it in favour of the inferior Photos.

Dec 3, 2017 12:21 AM in response to Gary O'Kane

Hi


I upgraded to OS 10.13.1 a few days ago, and now find that Aperture is very poor shape. The OS thinks it is open but there is no screen display. I can not restart the computer because "Aperture is open". For the same reason, I can not delete Aperture from my drive and restore from backup. Tried changing the name of the file, but did not get anywhere, so changed it back.


About a year ago after an OS upgrade Aperture became unstable, but worked at times. I mentioned this to the Apple-Shop techo when I was there for a different problem. He took the computer away and did something which fixed the issue. Perhaps I should try that again.

Dec 3, 2017 2:52 AM in response to robneave99

I am running Aperture on an old 2008 Mac Pro in High Sierra,Sierra and El Capitan and there is no problem with running it, there are a few quirks which have been noted before here, but the app should run.

So if you are experiencing problems you may look into what could be running on your mac that might be causing the issues you mention. You can download this app, http://etrecheck.com/ run it and post the results back here. The app provides a snapshot of what is running on your mac and helps with diagnosis, no personal data is included in the report. The app is recommended often in these forums and may just save you from wasting your money down the techs.

Dec 3, 2017 4:18 PM in response to Eau Rouge

Thanks for that. Here is report.


EtreCheck version: 3.4.6 (460)

Report generated 2017-12-04 07:55:58

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Runtime: 5:06

Performance:Below Average


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Problem:Other problem

Description:

Aperture will not close.


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MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013)

[Technical Specifications]-[User Guide]-[Warranty & Service]

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro10,2

1 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-3230M) CPU: 2-core

8 GB RAM Not upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

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iCloud Quota: 3.59 GB available


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USB20Bus

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Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

USB30Bus

Seagate Expansion

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Seagate Expansion Desk

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iSkysoft Helper Compact Application

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iTunesHelper Application (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-01)

(/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

1Password Helper URL SMLoginItem - Hidden (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-08)

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Time Machine:ⓘ

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Destinations:

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30%
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Microsoft Outlook for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Microsoft OneNote for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Microsoft Excel for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Kindle: 1.21.1 (installed 2017-11-20)

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Regards,
​Rob Neave

Dec 11, 2017 4:42 PM in response to Ron Taube1

I have also been using Affinity in combination with Aperture (but only on El Capitan so far on my iMac 2014). I was assured by a rep from Affinity that they intend to develop a DAM in the future although no sign of that as yet. Affinity is a great prog with a wide tool set but it is somewhat cumbersome to use as an external editor when you are working on a big job with a deadline and just needs that asset management such as that which makes Aperture still a popular prog.

Dec 12, 2017 1:21 AM in response to robneave99

First your mac has been up for 12 days, time to shut it down. Hold the power button down until it shuts down, may take a few seconds. Restart, see if that helps in any way.

When you upgraded to 10.13.1 did you check that your third party apps have updates so they will run under High Sierra.

You have installed Seagate software, there is no need to do this and this could be interfering with your functionality, macs don't need to install drive manufacturer software for the drives to function correctly, check with Seagate on how to uninstall there software thoroughly.

You have a lot of Login Items, do you need all of these apps running as soon as you start your mac up, these are just eating resources, if you can reduce the number of Login Items it may help. System Preferences> Users & Groups>Login Items, select the item(s) you wish to remove and click on the minus button.

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