iphone 8 poor/sensitive mic during call

Just got a new iPhone 8 (updated to ios 11.0.2) upgraded from iPhone 6. When making a call if not talking directly into the mic the person on the other end cannot hear me (or my voice volume is drastically lower). This occurs when even slightly moving the phone away from my mouth or rotating the phone slightly up or down. My father has the same problem with his iPhone 8, even returned it and got a new one, same problem. Switching to speaker phone solves the problem. Also noting it does not happen all the time and a hard reset can fix it for a bit but then it goes back to the bad behavior.


Has anyone else experienced this?

iPhone 8, iOS 11.0.2

Posted on Oct 5, 2017 7:48 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2018 11:14 AM

I found this interesting post on a similar mic issue thread for the iPhone X (thanks to brentwoodkennyg):


I sound muffled or underwater, but only sometimes. Other calls are perfect. Tried all of the fixes in this forum - Network reset, LTE off/on, full reset, wi-fi calls off. Noise cancellation off. With and without cover. Got a replacement phone from the Apple store. None of it helped and now I know why...


The issue turned out to be how I was holding the phone. There are three microphones on the X and one of them is located by the camera on the back of the phone. Even though I didn't cover it while holding the X (with fingers and thumb on the sides of the phone, I apparently was close enough to make that mic behave differently. When I move my phone-holding position in the same grip to the bottom part of the phone, the problems vanish. I have run through a series of test with my "complainers" and this seems to pinpoint the root cause. It's either user error or a design flaw, but there is a simple workaround. Hold the phone at the bottom of the case and definitely not near the top. Problem Solved!


Update as to why this works: Apple has designed noise cancellation into the talking side of the phone. (This is different than the noise cancellation in the Accessibility settings - those are for the listening not speaking). Anyway, there is a small mic on the back of the X by the camera. It's purpose is to listen for ambient noise (think crowded bar) and to cancel that noise from what it hears from the mics on the front at bottom of the phone. Those mics hear your voice talking plus they hear the ambient noise (crowded bar). The software "subtracts" the bar sound from what it hears on the front and the listener never hears the bar noise - just your voice. (You can test this by completely covering the back mic hole with your finger - then the listener hears the bar noise and has trouble hearing your voice).


Anyway, this is a really great feature - except that if you hold the phone near the top, it channels part of your voice into that back mic and it ends up canceling out all or part of your voice. So I have to hold my phone at the bottom and things work fine. This also explains problems with folding phone cases and issues when you are holding the phone between neck and shoulder.

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Jan 18, 2018 8:27 AM in response to KTMRider2018

Also, are you all experiencing, I have, my 2nd Iphone 8 Plus, and when I take a picture and then want to text it to someone. As I select the Text button, the phone just sits there and sits there and i select it again and it sits there and sits there and then finally after hitting the Green Text button it finally moves to the next screen where i can select the individuals phone number. Its been doing this ever since i got this 2nd New Phone. I'm on IOS 11.1.2. I know the 11.2.2 is more of a security patch/update that i need to do asap. Getting Really sick of this expensive brand new 2018 Iphone acting like its 20 years old....................Come on Apple, pull it together and get back to where you use to be when Steve Jobs was around. There is No Way In you know where, He would have stood for this kind of crappy service and crappy products and their functions lately. No way! Read the book about Steve Jobs life.

Jan 18, 2018 11:21 AM in response to SouthernGrannyRed

Just following up on my previous post. Upgrading the iPhone 6 to 11.2.2 made no difference. The only way to have a conversation with it is to use ear buds or have it on speaker (when it performs normally). Given how long this issue has been around, I'll very reluctantly be looking at moving our entire echo-system (5 iPads, 4 iPhones, 2 iMacs and 2 Apple TVs) across to Samsung/Android. They're all nearing replacement anyway. Apple seem to have totally lost the plot

Jan 20, 2018 7:08 AM in response to Onebostonboy

Totally Agree!! Apple is going down hill if you ask me. There is a Huge issue with their products (iphones) and they deny it. Samsung is going to prosper like crazy. Just think, they were slowing all of our phones on purpose to get more revenue. Hmmmmm, pretty shady company policy if you ask me. Then they get caught and we have to fork out more money, What?? Yea ridiculous. Havent they heard of customer service and the word Recall. Take care of those who made you Billionaires. On a lighter note, What Color is Everyones Phones? All of my Wife's Phones have been White and and Rose Gold and has had Zero issues. All of mine have been Black, Silver or Gray and I have had issues big time. So just curious? Sounds like Apple has a Huge batch of bad phones, even when a replacement is made. Again this is getting so OLD Apple. Fix our problems, well your problems that we are dealing with ! We know you are reading these posts

Jan 20, 2018 6:19 PM in response to Apple falls far from old Apple

Yea right....!!! Apple needs to fix these phones. I'm not paying a dime for their crap production batch we all got are are getting. This is such a stinking joke!!!!!!!!!! 1,000.00 phone and it cant even do a simple call !! Who really cares that a stinking Emoji moves, whoopeee, i need a phone to act like a phone !!! APPLE FIX THESE PHONES OF OURS!!!!!

Jan 22, 2018 11:00 AM in response to jánfromtrebišov

Apple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are listening, which i am sure you are! Fix our Phones! All of us on this forum are experiencing this stupid simple issue. Our phones can function as basic PHONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont want everyone around me hearing my call on speaker! I dont always have my head phones plugged in either. Fix the Problem. YES, there is a Big Problem!!!!!!!!!!!


Tried everything! and No solution

Jan 23, 2018 7:55 AM in response to Apple falls far from old Apple

Apple, Quit removing my posts! You all need to know what you are doing to all of us! Dishonest Apple gets caught Slowing down our Expensive Iphones!! Hmmm, great business model. Force us to upgrade, Apple got caught, oh then they make us Pay them 29.00 more $ to fix what they did!! Hahahah, makes sense. NOT! Fix these issues or we are all leaving your products. Apple isnt the only smart phone out there. Samsung is always the first to come out with new features then Apple copies them. I'm switching to Samsung!!!! Everyone i work with laughs that I'm still with Apple. Fix our current issues !

Jan 23, 2018 8:58 AM in response to Apple falls far from old Apple

Exactly, I dont get it...These phones are Super expensive and we cant even use them like a phone! Again, denial from Apple. They must have a ton of these phones on hand that are not working that they are giving to us as a bandage. Sure sounds like there really isnt a fix...........Frustrating that they are not standing by us and their products. My iphone 8 Plus still is acting up on a call. Love the features of the iphones but this is pushing me to consider switching....

Jan 23, 2018 9:44 AM in response to blongl

Yea, we already tried that one....Zero difference. We've tried everything on this forum and more and still not change. This is ridiculous how we are all trying to help each other, Apple needs to send out a software update for this particular problem to fix it. Nothing is working APPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People keep saying, what , i cant hear you , what, oh i have a Brand New $1,000.00 phone and no one can hear me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice!! NOT!!! Samsung is looking better and better

Jan 25, 2018 8:31 AM in response to KTMRider2018

Having a Huge delay when trying to send a picture from my photo album via a text. My older iphones never had this issue. Apple is heading to the bottom of the barrel, i tell ya. Where is Steve Jobs when you need him. Apple fix these software issues! Our phones dont work! Nothing is helping. Oh, and now my Apple Watch wont pair with my new iphone 8 plus. it sure was before the latest and greatest software update. Apple get your act together!!!!! You are losing customers big time this year!

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