iPhone X with Apple Leather Folio Mic Issues

I have a repeatable problem affecting two iPhone Xs with the new Apple Leather Folio cover; when the cover is folded behind the phone in order to take a call, the microphone is muffled.


This appears to be caused by the folio's magnet interfering with the phone's microphone.


If, during the call, the cover is opened wide so it is not folded behind the phone, the call quality is immediately improved.


I'm guessing that this is going to be a problem for everyone as it is happening to both my and my wife's phones in the exactly the same manner.


Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

iPhone X, iOS 11.1, with Apple Leather Folio cover

Posted on Nov 9, 2017 9:34 AM

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Posted on Nov 18, 2017 5:56 AM

Hi,


I had the same problem and returned the leather folio case. The problem is not issued by magnets, it is because the folded cover overlaps the little microphone between the two camera lenses (little hole), which should reduce the background noises. Using this folio with cover folded it also rups over the microphone and it is almost impossible to make phone calls. I almost returned my iPhone, cause I thought it might be the phone, that is not working. I talked to the people from Telekom, went 2 times in an Apple Store, but nobody could help me and nobody knew anything about the problem.


It is an constructional defect of the leather folio case.


Just bought the Otterbox Strada and everything works fine. The iPhone X ist a great mobile phone, the best I ever had, but the leather folio is disaster.

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Nov 23, 2017 6:39 AM in response to simongnz

Exactly the same issue with non Apple wallet style cases. I have now tried two different cases and had my phone replaced. Apple implied it could be an issue with the SIM card, hard it replaced. Took it to the Apple store and they reckoned the phone was fine, it was faulty cases (nope). As my cases didn't have the magnet, it can't be that although I am surprised to hear it does it with the Apple wallet style cases too. Looks like a design fault to me. Maybe time to switch to Android and just return the phone (grrrrrrr)

Dec 5, 2017 11:54 AM in response to simongnz

Alright First off, I have this issue too, and I don't have a Folio case. It is to do with the rear mic period. Every time I cradle the phone into my left shoulder during a call, people complain that I am muffled. As soon as I uncradle the phone, the audio is Fine. It definately has to do with the rear Mic and noise cancellation. My noise cancellation feature is TURNED OFF in settings, and always has been. Is there a fix for this? It really ***** that any time I am assisting someone over the phone and need two hands for typing that they can't hear me. And no I don't want a Bluetooth headset.

Dec 13, 2017 2:17 PM in response to simongnz

Software fix should be easy for iOS developers. Since the mic is near the camera's ==> before filtering out the background noice, check if camera receives light. If so, filter noice; if not, camera is covered and noice should not be filtered out...


2nd option, less convenient: add the option to stop cancel out background noice to the control pannel accessibility options icon. then just pressing three time the power button and all will work well during a call.


regards.

Dec 13, 2017 2:43 PM in response to simongnz

I have found that even without a case, if I wrap or cup my hand around the top of the iPhone X, the caller will tell me I am muffled. If I grasp it on the edges the caller says it's perfect. So for me I'm holding it wrong. Using a remote control to demonstrate what I mean. Note that even if my palm is not touching the camera the caller says I am muffled. Turning off noise cancellation doesn't seem to make any difference.

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Dec 18, 2017 11:37 PM in response to TCIS

What brand are you swapping to? Is it also a folio case?


Apple support told me there is something wrong with my folio case, and they are swapping it for another folio case. I love the case, the leather feels great, it gets a nice petina rather quick, and it holds all my cards and cash. Its just a shame the sound got crappy. I do hope they are correct regarding the case, and not that Im gonna get yet another case with the same problem.

Dec 20, 2017 7:56 AM in response to JDHepworth

Same problem for me also with Folio leather apple case on iPhone x.

At first i thought it was a problem with the iPhone and was ready to return it (very sad) but i was very relieved when i read this forum and found out its the case.

Unbelievable for a case that costs 100 euros and a phone that costs 1.000 euros!

I usually use my EarPods so i found out about the problem after having used the case for about a month now . so i am too late to return it.. a waste of money!

Hope many people write about this problem so apple makes some sort of software trick to solve the problem.

Jan 25, 2018 9:14 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Actually, it was me who said that it is a design problem of the iPhone X. Billbir answered to my claim that the problem is not just with the Apple Case, but also with other cases (Somebody on page 1 of this thread said that the Otterbox Strada does not cause this problem, which is not true).


And of course, you are right, it must have been a design problem of the previous versions of iPhone, too. I just never noticed it because I rarely use my iPhone SE for making or receiving calls. But yesterday my brother mentioned that all people tell him they can hardly understand him on his iPhone X, so I googled and found this thread.


Thanks a lot to everybody here who gave their 5 cents, it helped a lot.

Jan 27, 2018 1:29 PM in response to billbir

billbir wrote:


This proves to me that the problem is the magnet built into the cover, and caused by a change in the spec of the iPhone X, which has not recognised the impact of magnets on case covers, even their own expensive case!

Really? Then why did a lot of people in this thread post that they have the problem using cases that don't have magnets? And some that don't have the problem using a case with a magnet but with an opening that exposes the mic.


It is not the magnet. There is nothing in the phone that would be affected by a magnet except the compass.

Jan 27, 2018 1:43 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

I think there is a problem with the noise cancelling algorithms. I have experimented with noise cancelling, and when you take a lower volume copy of your voice and use it as the noise profile, in an app like Audacity, you get somewhat the same effect as when talking in the phone. I do hope Apple engieneers would do something to remedy this problem.

Since this does clearly happen with all folio cases, not just the one by Apple, the problem is within the phone, not the case.


By the way, please file a radar on this matter, and leave a link to this thread as well in it. Ive heard Apple engieneers say, if there is no radar, there is no issue.

Mar 10, 2018 8:02 AM in response to simongnz

I have the same issue with my 7 Plus. Currently talking to Apple support about the matter.

I have a similar style case to yours (otterbox) which has a magnetic clasp to secure case closed. I’m constantly getting people tell me they can’t hear me or my speech sounds muffled and broken. I did think this is linked to how I fold the front of the case around the back when I talk. I think it’s something to do with the rear mic however I thought this mic was only used in video audio and noise cancellation?

It drives me nuts I think Apple should address this issue, they have yet to acknowledge the problem.

Mar 26, 2018 10:33 AM in response to simongnz

I have a IPhone 7 and a Safe Sleeves Wallet case. My phone constantly went on Mute, the Slide to Power Off Button stopped working, and the letters D and X wouldn’t type. I truly believe something in the case was effectively the hardware of the phone.


i just received a new IPhone 7 from Apple. Using the same case, I now have Call Failures. Verizon ran analytics on the phone and all is good. Again I believe it’s the case. Anyone else having a problem with and Wallet cases?

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