Logic Pro 9 and High Sierra

This might be the last straw with Apple. Two computers, Logic Pro 9 on both of them, I upgrade to High Sierra on my laptop only to find Logic Pro 9 now does not work and I have to upgrade at $199.00.


I bought Logic Pro 9. It is mine. I bought Apple computers. They are mine. Now Apple takes away the program I BOUGHT?


This tells me to think of a couple of solutions: don't ever upgrade OS to latest and greatest, for fear of losing the applications you do have, or now it is time to start looking around at other DAWs.


I have already counseled my son to avoid Mac, as he is now starting to look at computer purchases as well as music programs. He will not be going with Mac. My wife and I have, in all, 7 Apples running in our house if you include iPhones. Two iMacs, two MacBook Pros, and 3 iPhones. They continue their quest to make things more clever and clever, confusing the entire experience, and we, too, will phase back out of Mac as each unit crashes and burns, and I won't miss them.


This morning's discovery might be the last straw, and I will probably hurry up the changeover. My advice to you out there who are looking for computers....avoid Apple. They are not who they think they are.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017 5:56 AM

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Posted on Dec 28, 2017 5:16 AM

Well, i have an old MAC late 2009 and was astonished that I could update it to high sierra.

Now I have the same problem


The decision is to take now: downgrade it ( have a full backup on time machine ) and then i have sierra and Logic 9 will work, or invest 200 $ .

I'm gonna downgrade it.

I don't need the latest features ...

Logic is good enough as is ( at least for me )


But there is an alternate solution:

For testing i use VMWare Fusion

Just set up a MAC with Sierra as a virtual machine

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Dec 28, 2017 5:16 AM in response to gjleo

Well, i have an old MAC late 2009 and was astonished that I could update it to high sierra.

Now I have the same problem


The decision is to take now: downgrade it ( have a full backup on time machine ) and then i have sierra and Logic 9 will work, or invest 200 $ .

I'm gonna downgrade it.

I don't need the latest features ...

Logic is good enough as is ( at least for me )


But there is an alternate solution:

For testing i use VMWare Fusion

Just set up a MAC with Sierra as a virtual machine

Jan 26, 2018 5:28 AM in response to gerhardB

Understandably there’s a lot of upset folks commenting on here so let’s get some facts straight and I hope to offer some tips that will help avoid future issues like this before they happen.


1. Upgrading an operating system is a choice and must be done so IF it makes sense in your situation. It’s the user’s responsibility to do research first before making a big leap.


2. Emails were sent out to legacy users of Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio back in August 2017 with a link to “About Apple Pro Apps and High Sierra” but before you say you didn’t receive it there were several tech websites that posted the upcoming changes:


https://m.imore.com/heads-these-apple-pro-apps-wont-work-high-sierra


https://m.dpreview.com/news/4303332787/rip-final-cut-pro-7-the-video-editor-won- t-work-at-all-on-macos-high-sierra


https://www.geniusdv.com/tutorials/end-of-final-cut-pro-7-with-high-sierra/


https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/28/final-cut-pro-7-wont-launch-macos-high-sierr a/


3. With a Time Machine backup a user can easily revert back to a previous operating system and backup to continue using Logic Pro 9.


4. What software do you own besides Logic Pro 9 has lasted for 8 years through 7 operating systems? I can’t think of any. I know I got my money’s worth from Logic Studio and Logic Pro X is a worthy successor worth it’s low price tag of $200. Every update since it’a release in July 2013 has been free and that’s from version 10.0-10.4. 10.4 by the way has a ton of new awesome features: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718


5. Lastly, before doing any update, if you didn’t get an email, read it on Apple’s website, or know for sure if it’s right for you to do, ask for clarity. Apple’s Pro Apps Support is available 7 days a week 866-752-7753, option 3.


Best of luck on whichever route you take!

Nov 27, 2017 7:19 AM in response to gjleo

"I bought Logic Pro 9. It is mine..."

Sorry no... you purchased a license to use Logic 9, (not own it).


Logic 9 was released in 2009, so it's ambitious to think it would be supported, (or even work) on High Sierra. There's plenty of threads of people having issues with Logic X with High Sierra, so I'm afraid the moral of the story is always do your research before a major OS update, (& also do a backup in case you need to revert).


$199.00 seems a fair price to "upgrade" (purchase) Logic X, (especially in comparison to other DAW's). As a Logic user since V4, I can tell you I've spent a fair bit more on upgrades over the years 😉

Apr 14, 2018 10:57 PM in response to octopi

Rules For Apple Updates

1: Extensive homework needs to be done before any Apple "update" is even considered. Just mindlessly clicking a free update button is foolish and expensive. We have learned this from experience.

2: A "free update" will not be free. Apple is not a charity. You will pay to update third party software and additional Apple software, such as Logic Pro. You may need to buy new hardware as well.

3: Wait at least one year after release to upgrade, so that the to be expected bugs may be worked out, and so all of your expensive third party software can be trusted to operate properly within the new environment.

4: Apple will not go out of its way to inform you that by upgrading to their new "free" OS, you are about to make an expensive mistake that benefits them financially. Why would they? If they were concerned, they would do a quick analysis and warn you just as you are about to begin the upgrade procedure, about which apps on your system will suddenly become nonfunctional.

5: Again: Apple is not a charitable company. The business model does not involve giving you everything you need for free. They have coders, designers, and marketeers on the payroll.

6. Do a complete backup before any upgrade to ensure that you can easily downgrade after you discover how much of your valuable software is suddenly unusable.

Dec 28, 2017 5:20 PM in response to logic79

Yes, but that was a forum admin. Not a software developer or R&D or coders or design or bug fixers or suggestion implementors or anything else. They have the forum rules in front of them and they are paid to remove or censor things that break the forum rules and that's all.


They don't and cannot report back issues people have with hardware, software or policy. They just police the forum and that's it. So no one who can do anything for a user or group of users who bring up a good or valid point will be heard by the right people through these forums. This is just users trying to help other users. We are our own support and tech team.


Don't get me wrong, there's loads of things I strongly disagree with coming out and from Apple these days but I use feedback links straight to Apple for those hoping someone (or if enough people do the same) may address some issues. I just don't do it through this forum because........ Apple don't come here. Not the Apple that can do anything about the subject of this thread.

Dec 28, 2017 5:23 PM in response to Pancenter

Running 10.6.8 for my main rig and also have a Windows 7 machine for a couple of other things. My 10.6.8 machine runs brilliantly.


I also have a couple of 2012 Mac Minis that run newer OS's and Logic X. Only ever use them if something comes in on Logic X. Even then, I usually clean up the wavs and bounce out and into my Logic 9 setup.

Feb 4, 2018 8:49 AM in response to gjleo

Hi,

I feel your pain and frustration. Don't often make comments on forums or anywhere for that matter. I too am like you in that my house is Apple based. Made that decision years ago for one reason, all their stuff works well together and I don't have to be a PC whiz to make it work. Try to setup a netgear router sometime....I'd rather go back to using pen and paper. haha. Regardless here is my situation and I thought I'd share just to simply give you another perspective to think about, if you don't want it, no harm no foul.

I have a Mac tower G5 bought in or around 2010, mostly used for two things, my home studio and photo's. I chose the Logic platform and i like it a lot. I used Logic 9 for years. The G5 is was and has gotten old, but still runs great. As the new OS continued to come out I hesitated, for many reason I'm sure we share. Then I took the plunge with El Capitan even though everyone talked of gloom and doom about Logic 9 not working. I did it, it worked great. I upgraded so that I could continue getting security updates. I don't go in behind the scenes and try to modify how my Mac works like I am some programming guru. They designed it a certain way for a reason, most of us are better off staying out of the behind the scenes stuff in a PC. Too many people go on google, read and article, and then think they are a programmer. Makes me laugh!

For years I kept up with Logic X and how cool it looked and reading about it's issues and finally they got most of it worked out and I upgraded to Logic X. I have never looked back, it was well worth the money. If you have the 7 devices or whatever in your house and add up what you spent on all that hardware, $199 is nothing. Just saying. I'm not made of money either, but.... This machine I use is hooked to the internet, I'll get to that!

Current situation

Just updated to High Sierra. I don't put a lot of goofy stuff on my PC, so it typically runs without issue. Same true on this upgrade. Only thing that seems to not work is, Logic 9. After all the updating I saw the large circle with the slash through it and LOL. It happened. I should have read about it up front, but I doubt it would have changed my direction. Here is why. The internet.

I joked with my wife that some day this Mac tower would be diconnected from the internet forever. My guess is that High Sierra is my last OS update. I will just keep making music with the latest I have. The new tools are more than enough. You know as well as I that the music is about creating in your head, writing the songs, coming up with new melodies, and Logic X has more that enough to do that forever!

There are ways around all the concerns that pop up with being disconnected from the net. It's really not a big deal.

Hopefully my War and peace novel just simply gives you and maybe others something to think about. You don't have to be connected to the net to keep creating great music. There are plenty of ways to get it out there.

Man, have a great day and keep making music! That is what makes you happy and smile and probably others around you happy. The music really is all that matters! Just an opinion!

Feb 15, 2018 1:51 PM in response to logic79

Very smart, I agree with you here. I run Snow Leopard for the awesome Disk Utility and my Legacy software, which includes Cubase 4. I run El Capitan although I hate its Disk Utility - Justus Beyer fixed this (Google his name). And I run Logic 10.3.3 on the Captain. Finally I have High Sierra for Logic 10.4 and for experimentation (courtesy of dosdude1 (Google his name too).

Dec 28, 2017 2:18 PM in response to reyemlrak

Attn. octopi.

Great reply as always. Yes, old is better, I run three OS's 10.7. 10.8 and 10.11 all to suit whatever software I need to run, old or new. Nothing dies or gets thrown out. OS 10.8.5 with Logic 9.1.8 and Profire 2626. The most stable setup yet. Long live Apple.

What I wanted to mention was that Apple does come here and they do read these forums. Several days ago I replied to a post very similar to gileo. They stopped the reply because of the wording I used to describe people who upgrade OS's without doing their home work regarding OS and App, compatibility and blaming Apple.

Interesting to say the least.

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