Level 1

27 points

Logic Pro 9 and High Sierra

This might be the last straw with Apple. Two computers, Logic Pro 9 on both of them, I upgrade to High Sierra on my laptop only to find Logic Pro 9 now does not work and I have to upgrade at $199.00.

I bought Logic Pro 9. It is mine. I bought Apple computers. They are mine. Now Apple takes away the program I BOUGHT?

This tells me to think of a couple of solutions: don't ever upgrade OS to latest and greatest, for fear of losing the applications you do have, or now it is time to start looking around at other DAWs.

I have already counseled my son to avoid Mac, as he is now starting to look at computer purchases as well as music programs. He will not be going with Mac. My wife and I have, in all, 7 Apples running in our house if you include iPhones. Two iMacs, two MacBook Pros, and 3 iPhones. They continue their quest to make things more clever and clever, confusing the entire experience, and we, too, will phase back out of Mac as each unit crashes and burns, and I won't miss them.

This morning's discovery might be the last straw, and I will probably hurry up the changeover. My advice to you out there who are looking for computers....avoid Apple. They are not who they think they are.

Apple TV, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Nov 27, 2017 5:56 AM

Top-ranking reply

doulosk

Level 1

8 points

Posted on Jan 26, 2018 5:28 AM

Understandably there’s a lot of upset folks commenting on here so let’s get some facts straight and I hope to offer some tips that will help avoid future issues like this before they happen.

1. Upgrading an operating system is a choice and must be done so IF it makes sense in your situation. It’s the user’s responsibility to do research first before making a big leap.

2. Emails were sent out to legacy users of Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio back in August 2017 with a link to “About Apple Pro Apps and High Sierra” but before you say you didn’t receive it there were several tech websites that posted the upcoming changes:

https://m.imore.com/heads-these-apple-pro-apps-wont-work-high-sierra

https://m.dpreview.com/news/4303332787/rip-final-cut-pro-7-the-video-editor-won- t-work-at-all-on-macos-high-sierra

https://www.geniusdv.com/tutorials/end-of-final-cut-pro-7-with-high-sierra/

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/28/final-cut-pro-7-wont-launch-macos-high-sierr a/

3. With a Time Machine backup a user can easily revert back to a previous operating system and backup to continue using Logic Pro 9.

4. What software do you own besides Logic Pro 9 has lasted for 8 years through 7 operating systems? I can’t think of any. I know I got my money’s worth from Logic Studio and Logic Pro X is a worthy successor worth it’s low price tag of $200. Every update since it’a release in July 2013 has been free and that’s from version 10.0-10.4. 10.4 by the way has a ton of new awesome features: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718

5. Lastly, before doing any update, if you didn’t get an email, read it on Apple’s website, or know for sure if it’s right for you to do, ask for clarity. Apple’s Pro Apps Support is available 7 days a week 866-752-7753, option 3.

Best of luck on whichever route you take!

View in context

43 replies

Jan 8, 2018 11:13 PM in response to reyemlrak

I agree, Apple has lost sight of what made their products and the company great. I won't be upgrading to "I was Too High" Sierra and when I buy new DAW, it will be on a PC! Presently the lowest latency interface uses Thunderbolt and even though I have an i7 desktop with dual monitors, you can't buy a thunderbolt card for a Dell PC. They want you to buy a new $3k HP PC. This is total CRAP! All audio interfaces should use a network cable and put an end to the connectivity and platform war. Same old religious war on the Mac since the 80's. Back in the day, QuickTime did everything and it was free. No pro version just to save your file. I'm tired of Apple crap. The Mac is not intuitive or easier, it's just more expensive and their hardware becomes obsolete by design. I have a P4 in the garage running XP and I'll bet I could install Win 10 on it! 35 years and I still have to blow some corporation before I can write and record a song.

Niall

Level 2

243 points

Jan 9, 2018 5:14 PM in response to reyemlrak

"It is not my responsibility as a customer to spend time searching on the internet to see if any of the hundreds of programs I have on my computer may have become obsolete upon upgrading to the latest OS." - err... yes it is.

Jan 12, 2018 10:07 AM in response to gjleo

It shows that Apple dont give a **** about The little people anymore

I have 1 Imac, 1 Macbook air.. 2 iPhone 6s, 1 iPhone 7, 1 iPhone 7 plus, 2 Apple tv and 2 iWatches..

This could easely be The last i buy if they dont fix all This ****..

Apple!! Dont **** with people

Jan 23, 2018 1:14 PM in response to F-L-E-X-I-S

I paid $495 dollars for what you called a Logic Pro 9 license and I still have the CD/DVD so that makes it MINE. I can upgrade to Logic Pro X for $200 but I wanted to keep all the other software that runs with Logic Pro 9 (i.e. Soundtrack, Main Stage, etc.) and for Apple to remove all of them with the latest MacOS is not alright. To be fair, if this latest MacOS had broadcast a warning that they have removed support, then I am to blame. If I had seen that warning, then I would never have upgraded to the new MacOS, especially the fact that my MacBook is somewhat old now (2012). I would then buy a new Mac and then use Logic Pro X. It should have been my choice, not Apple's.

vdu7x

Level 1

14 points

Jan 24, 2018 3:44 PM in response to Indyuser

Well I do take onboard your point about not being an early adopter of XI but I thought I'd have 9 to fall back on.

Anyhow, I've bitten the bullet and bought LPX. I'll console myself with the belief that it's a very well developed and debugged piece of software!

Jan 25, 2018 5:32 PM in response to Indyuser

Thank you for the response but do not presume to say that the license agreement applies to all Apple Software as you are showing me the Logic Pro X License Agreement. That may apply nowadays but back then you have the option to purchase (yes, purchase) the Logic Pro Studio software and you are provided with a product key to show that you are indeed the OWNER and not pirating or copying it from someone else (the image below is from the software I bought). Again, I don't have a problem shelling out $200 for an upgrade but I thought that Apple has shortchanged the Logic Pro X. It doesn't come with the package provided in the Logic Pro Studio and that is why I believe that they should have warned the users via email prior to upgrading the OS. I am very disappointed with this action so instead of upgrading, I'm going to move on to a different software now as my DAW (Pro Tools or Studio One 3). Peace out.

MVJESTY

Level 1

4 points

Mar 13, 2018 2:26 PM in response to gjleo

Hey man, I've never even made a post here but I am happy to see there is someone exactly like me. I've been producing on Logic Pro 9 since I was 10 years old and for the past 9 years I've been using it. My family has over 20 apple products and I think It's ridiclous ever since they switched to logic X they don't care about what customers want. But this is apple, their goal for years is to try and tell the customers what we want before we know it. I am annoyed because I believe 9 is the greatest DAW and now in a few years I will have to force update which I am dreading

GVC66

Level 1

8 points

Mar 21, 2018 9:00 AM in response to gjleo

Agreed!!! Just had the same problem. Several Macbook pros, mac minis, Ipads, and Iphones. Loyalty was Apple's to lose and they may have done it. As a shareholder this concerns me. The path towards taking an olive out of the jar began when they soldered memory into the Macbook pro and their response to the outrage was silence. The Logic X and planned obsolescence of devices continues this troubling path of taking from loyal customers instead of innovating. Executives seem to be concerned more with short term gains than building on what made the brand great. Shareholders that have large taxable gains are going to have a tough decision to make. Yes look at the balance sheet now, however, the worry is the direction of that balance sheet if they keep doing this to the core of their clientele.

GVC66

Level 1

8 points

Mar 21, 2018 9:49 AM in response to Spilex

This is a great point! And this should also worry apple shareholders. By ******* off loyal users more and more are going to unplug at or close to the apex of the technology and just maintain their machines. Apple definitely over reached here.

Question... would you have felt differently if they offered a cross-grade price? Say 99$ for current users? or are you going to roll back the OS, stay with V9 and unplug?

GVC66

Level 1

8 points

Mar 22, 2018 7:53 AM in response to Pancenter

Tried that and it is a black hole. Hopefully the fact that this is public will spur them to action. Then again I am sure they are more likely to purge these discussion threads than admit fault and correct it.

gjleo Author

Level 1

27 points

Nov 27, 2017 8:28 AM in response to F-L-E-X-I-S

Thank you for your reply, and you may well be right. But in my mind, I bought it. I am not a computer whiz and am not all that familiar with how these things work. I just like to compose music, that is all, and I would like to hone it as best I can purely for self satisfaction.

However, my basic point still stands. Apple is self absorbed and thinks it is king. They force their users to use only Apple products as much as they can, making their technology proprietary. I am not a fan of that philosophy and have found that their equipment is not easy enough to use, nor does it stand up to the test of time, for the price and its expectations of purchase renewals.

The other thing is that I really don't think Apple cares about me. They should. Enough me(s) can eventually cause problems in their company....they need to try to keep my happy and they don't. Not without paying them another 100 dollars a crack to ask questions, or whatever their charges are these days.

I had a Dell computer that ran me fine for ten years. I think we will migrate back.

Indyuser

Level 5

4,623 points

Jan 24, 2018 4:43 PM in response to vdu7x

You must be a fictional writer :)

Feb 13, 2018 12:54 PM in response to gjleo

"The other thing is that I really don't think Apple cares about me"

sounds like you need to purchase apple care

Feb 18, 2018 11:47 PM in response to reyemlrak

That was so well said - that is exactly how I feel about this. cheers : )

Nov 27, 2017 7:19 AM in response to gjleo

"I bought Logic Pro 9. It is mine..."

Sorry no... you purchased a license to use Logic 9, (not own it).

Logic 9 was released in 2009, so it's ambitious to think it would be supported, (or even work) on High Sierra. There's plenty of threads of people having issues with Logic X with High Sierra, so I'm afraid the moral of the story is always do your research before a major OS update, (& also do a backup in case you need to revert).

$199.00 seems a fair price to "upgrade" (purchase) Logic X, (especially in comparison to other DAW's). As a Logic user since V4, I can tell you I've spent a fair bit more on upgrades over the years 😉

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Logic Pro 9 and High Sierra