Logic Pro 9 and High Sierra

Thank you for the response but do not presume to say that the license agreement applies to all Apple Software as you are showing me the Logic Pro X License Agreement. That may apply nowadays but back then you have the option to purchase (yes, purchase) the Logic Pro Studio software and you are provided with a product key to show that you are indeed the OWNER and not pirating or copying it from someone else (the image below is from the software I bought). Again, I don't have a problem shelling out $200 for an upgrade but I thought that Apple has shortchanged the Logic Pro X. It doesn't come with the package provided in the Logic Pro Studio and that is why I believe that they should have warned the users via email prior to upgrading the OS. I am very disappointed with this action so instead of upgrading, I'm going to move on to a different software now as my DAW (Pro Tools or Studio One 3). Peace out.

Hey man, I've never even made a post here but I am happy to see there is someone exactly like me. I've been producing on Logic Pro 9 since I was 10 years old and for the past 9 years I've been using it. My family has over 20 apple products and I think It's ridiclous ever since they switched to logic X they don't care about what customers want. But this is apple, their goal for years is to try and tell the customers what we want before we know it. I am annoyed because I believe 9 is the greatest DAW and now in a few years I will have to force update which I am dreading

Agreed!!! Just had the same problem. Several Macbook pros, mac minis, Ipads, and Iphones. Loyalty was Apple's to lose and they may have done it. As a shareholder this concerns me. The path towards taking an olive out of the jar began when they soldered memory into the Macbook pro and their response to the outrage was silence. The Logic X and planned obsolescence of devices continues this troubling path of taking from loyal customers instead of innovating. Executives seem to be concerned more with short term gains than building on what made the brand great. Shareholders that have large taxable gains are going to have a tough decision to make. Yes look at the balance sheet now, however, the worry is the direction of that balance sheet if they keep doing this to the core of their clientele.

This is a great point! And this should also worry apple shareholders. By ******* off loyal users more and more are going to unplug at or close to the apex of the technology and just maintain their machines. Apple definitely over reached here.

Question... would you have felt differently if they offered a cross-grade price? Say 99$ for current users? or are you going to roll back the OS, stay with V9 and unplug?

Tried that and it is a black hole. Hopefully the fact that this is public will spur them to action. Then again I am sure they are more likely to purge these discussion threads than admit fault and correct it.

You must be a fictional writer :)

"The other thing is that I really don't think Apple cares about me"

sounds like you need to purchase apple care

That was so well said - that is exactly how I feel about this. cheers : )

yep... wait until you see what other people charge you for far fewer updates....

I paid hundred of dollars for Finale and could not get them to fix one major issue and when they did - they wanted me to buy and upgrade to the latest version ( which was really just a minor version update).

Be careful you don't cut off your nose to spite your face - You think everything is going to work under windows.... my cakewalk won't run under windows 10 🙂

Logic Pro X has had something along the lines of 10 free updates since its release in 2013... That is INCREDIBLE...

Most are moving to a subscription model now where you pay so much per month.... That's like upgrading yearly whether you need to or not.....

Moving to Apple from Windows was the best move I ever made.... stuff just works now....

Nearly everyone I know who runs Pro Tools run it on a Mac. That's owned by Avid, not Apple, and they have to be very careful about any sort of updates. They don't upgrade their OS until Avid qualify their version of Pro Tools on any particular OS but they do have to go to Avid to find out the info. I believe Avid do the same for Windows users too.

Did you have a Dell computer that you updated to the latest version of Windows every time a new version was released and did all your Windows based apps work through every update without actually having to update the apps themselves? In my experience Microsoft Office suite breaks on Windows with virtually every incremental update then MS fix the apps to work. I have an Apple 4400 in the loft that is in perfect working order. That's from 1996 but, of course, won't run anything since 2000'ish. Logic 9 has done amazingly well for its age and there is the alternative by making sure any apps you use are compatible before upgrading an OS. No matter what OS it is, be it OS X, Windows, Unix, Linux etc. Apple stopped any development for Logic 9 the moment Logic X came out and that was over 4 years ago now.

My fridge broke the other day. I'd only had it 4 years, less time than I've owned and used Logic 9. It's out of warranty and the repair is the cost of a new fridge. I bought that fridge, it should last until I die of old age.

You don't have to upgrade your OS. You don't have to upgrade your apps. The OS used to cost £125 in itself and, of course, this is a user to user forum so I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make. You should complain to Apple. Apple don't come here or read these threads.

Doesn't matter if one pays for "licensing" or ownership. $200 may not seem like a lot of money but when the people at Apple upgrade the OS every year it creates problems across the board. Most mac users are aware of this and usually wait a year before upgrading to your new OS anyway. Professional users purchase Macs because they're supposed to cater to the professional user. The majority of pros in Music and/or Film use Mac computers for recording, editing etc. ALL professional users are also using THIRD PARTY software for plug-ins, interfaces etc that is necessary for the task. When Apple upgrades OS that frequently it's not only apple software that has isuues it's the other third party software as well as printer drivers etc. Not everyone can afford to spend thousands of dollars every 3 years but Apple really doesn't about the pro users anymore. It's obvious by the way they've dropped the ball on many aspects from hardware to software. It's like the hot dog and bun analogy. Buy a pack of 8 hot dogs but only 6 buns come in a package. Now you have to buy an extra pack of buns with 4 left over. Now you have to buy another pack of hot dogs to use the buns... and the cycle continues. It's a cat and mouse game with Apple. I myself have switched from FCP to Adobe and I'm considering switching from Logic to Pro Tools so I can run everything off of a PC.

Respectfully, these come off as excuses. All of them. Defending the company for interpreting passive consent for true consent.

#1 the average consumer (And that is who the shareholder should be concerned with) relies on a company that is the author of the hardware, OS, and software to make the upgrade just works. I could understand if the software was third party.

#2 passive consent? No. This is apple not caring about consent at all. Arrogance.

#3 great so people have a choice; a) use the old version of Logic at the risk of the less secure OS. b) re buy a software that they already owned and had no need for improvement... Not a great choice for a consumer which should concern the (Long Term) shareholder. This is the root of the anger, period.

#4 ik multimedia do a great job of engendering loyalty. So does Toontrack. Both companies provide cross grades and promotions for existing users.

#5 Not helpful for someone who trusted that the upgrade of an OS would not make software from the same company obsolete because now you have wasted there time. This falls under the arrogance bucket. The optics are that Apple values the employees hours more than yours.

Maybe its time for Apple to update the Logic Pro 9 system requirements page then 😝 it would be helpful to us all. A quick and simple tweak that would help to quell a debate. But at the end of the day its up to apple! After all Apple are responsible for making sure that the information about their products are accurate. In other words... if the tech specs says that it is able to run on "OS X v10.6.8 or later." (quoted from the Logic Pro 9 technical specifications page) is it not reasonable for consumers to conclude that it is capable on running on their apple products (providing they meet the "System Requirements")?

I too agree that research should be done to make sure of a smooth transition. However, having to resort to third party forums, and secondhand information (after consulting Apples Official Technical Specifications page) to learn of any changes for Official Apple products (instead of through official channels ie. Notifications, Emails, Alerts, System Prompts and a Update for the Logic Pro 9 tech-specs) is not only unprofessional but negligent on the part of such a highly renowned and respected organisation, especially considering it has now been unsupported for some time!

Time to update that page Apple 😉