"iMac Pro" kernel crash

I have a new iMac Pro 8core 32gb ram 1tb SSD and Pro Vega 64

(attached are a usb hub, usb audio speakers, usb trackball, thunderbolt 3 raid with a thunderbolt 2 raid chained to it via thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter)


I am looking for input


Within the first 8hours I had two kernel Panics but now seem ok...my iMac shut off and rebooted by itself...both logs have {"caused_by":"macos","macos_system_state":"running","bug_type":"210","os_versio n":"Bridge OS 2.0 .....


To note my Logitech software wasn't recognizing my trackball but it worked ...after crashes I unplugged and replugged the trackball and the software was able to see it.


Should I be concerned?

iMac Pro (2017), macOS High Sierra (10.13.2), null

Posted on Jan 9, 2018 7:25 PM

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Posted on Apr 4, 2018 5:12 AM

So my problem has been temporary solved these are the step I took


1) I erased my hard drive and reloaded mac os

2) i disabled sleep and power nap

3) I removed a sonnet chassis on the the thunderbolt drive that contained a PCIe card ( this seemed to be the solution)

It seems when this card was on the thunderbolt connection to the computer at the same time my la cie hard drive was on thunderbolt crashes occurred frequently. they were never daisy chained and had their own port. Disconnecting either seemed to solve random crashes.The card inside was a universal audio card.

the crashes that happened overnight stopped when I disabled power nap.

4) As others thought the crash is related to daisy chaining I disagree as on another thunderbolt port i have several hard drives daisy chained. It seems certain devices are not playing well together on the thunderbolt data pipe wether or not they are on the same port or not.


I will update if I have any more crashes. The problem is now I can't use my Universal audio PCIe card 😟

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Jul 13, 2018 7:46 AM in response to jmartz

I’m not sure yet. I have been consistently crashing every night. Since I’m dropping CrashPlan, and incidentally, the main application seems to be crashing lately when trying to launch it (even though it’s kext is running and backing up), I decided to uninstall this one first and leave it a few days, before trying the next two items in the list.


So far, no crash last night with CrashPlan uninstalled. Will see how it looks this afternoon when I get back to the computer.

Jul 19, 2018 9:47 PM in response to MFASM

Just keeping a pulse... still no word from Apple Engineering/Corporate(!). The crashes/reboots have been occurring more frequently, though I’ve been forcing myself to use the device more; rather than relying on my old MacBook Pro when I wanted reliability. I cannot stress that software is irrelevant to this issue... it occurs with a fresh OS/standard apps and usage — not to suggest that taxing apps/usage doesn’t make the matter more prevalent. If anyone has any further updates to share, please post them. Thanks.

Jul 24, 2018 9:13 PM in response to MrNunUther

Looks like it is a bigger culteral issue at Apple. Releasing hardware and software with known issues is not the Apple way. The article was actually nicer than it should have been. But even more interesting was another article on the same page talking about the issues with the new mac book pro, and how Apple didn’t redesign the chassis to take advantage of the i9 chip which has to be throttled back (I assume because of heat) to the point it performs worse than the i7. This would not have happened under Steve Jobs watch.

Jul 24, 2018 10:01 PM in response to 1Ronin

I agree, I think quality has been lackadaisical for the last couple/few years. And I concur, the article was nicer than I believe Apple deserves, but I am extremely biased at this point. Moreover, until more knowledge is shared, it could be irresponsible to take a different approach. Hopefully this will spark other journalists, or even some heads at Apple, to look into the matter with more detail and fervor. I suggest that we share this article, and continue to press the matter for more/better attention.

Jul 25, 2018 12:58 AM in response to gdcrook1

While its true that this is frustrating, and I'm the first being annoyed after spending so much on a computer... In the end its still the computer with the least number of issues I have, doesn't make it right, but the Windows & Linux machines I have are much more trouble than the iMac Pro / macOS.


If you need a fast and silent workstation with a great screen, its still the best you can buy. The iMac Pro has no throttling issue I could detect, whether its playing games, or coding... I dont do video processing, etc... so it might be different if you do that, but in my experience running games is by far "the worst case scenario" since it taxes the GPU & CPU...

Jul 25, 2018 9:43 AM in response to PierreRenaux

Agreed. I’m not sure why I did this, but I just bought an i9 MacBook Pro. So now I have 2 T2 based macs. I noticed it was constantly running the fan(especially running VMware fusion/Windows 10, but that was common on my 2014 mbp as well.) I did feel a bit underwhelmed by the supposed 70% performance increase and it felt about the same as my 2014 with a 2.53ghz. I was going to give it another week and the return it if there wasn’t a fix issued.


I get the crypto Val error when running a disk check which did not make me very happy. Who is loading these machines? I buy a Mac because I don’t want to jack with installing and tweaking the OS.


Anyway I installed the i9 fix yesterday and am happy to report that things are significantly better. No fan constantly running and was able to get repeatable solid performance numbers in Geekbench 4. Repeat runs were in a few percentage points of each other and didn’t point to any throttling problems. I’m not in front of it right now but from memory single core performance was 53-5400 range and multi core was 22600 or so. Compute benchmark was not as great but still pretty good with ~22k for the intel graphics and 52k for the AMD graphics. On the open cl benchmark.


That performance is good enough that if I don’t see any improvement soon on the kernel panics I’m returning the iMac. I’m giving it another few weeks.

Jul 25, 2018 11:23 AM in response to krypttic

I’ve thus far decided to ignore the errors. I don’t have time to do the reinstall, and I have a bunch of challenge response software with limited installation counts. I’m really hoping that a software fix is in the works for this. I do think that at the very least it shows a level of sloppiness that is a new post jobs era. I write code for a living, I know software is hard. But come on Apple you have to be insanely great, not slightly above average or quirky.

Jul 26, 2018 8:19 AM in response to Carm01

Completely agree that they know all about the problems and that this is a red flag issue in Apple Engineering. Like I said, this was the first time I finally broke through the Engineering blockade and spoke with an actual engineer, usually you are given several levels of interference.


Unfortunately, we're not going to know if they will fix the problem. If they sold 100K units and only 50 of us are having problems, they're not going to declare a chip / hardware failure and do a full replacement... but if we keep this thread alive, we can perhaps find out when they start delivering units that are working and get replacements then.

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