Samsung 860 EVO with MB Pro 2012 won't boot

Is there any reason a new 500GB Samsung 860 EVO would be incompatible as a replacement internal HD on a MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)? The Samsung site says it should be compatible with SATA 3 and 1.5 Gb/s interfaces.


I have installed various versions of OS X using various methods on the drive. When I try to boot, there are several different scenarios that occur, seemingly at random. The common element is the appearance of the prohibitory symbol during boot. Sometimes the symbol is steady, sometimes with an intermittent Apple logo that flashes, and sometimes it switches to Apple logo with progress bar that appears to be booting, but usually then back to prohibitory symbol. Sometimes it does actually boot into the login screen and allows me to sign in, but the system is extremely slow, with lots of lag between the mouse/keyboard actions and there effects.


When I boot from the drive connected externally via SATA to USB adapter, it works flawlessly.


Any suggestions?

MacBook Pro, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)

Posted on Jan 31, 2018 9:54 AM

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Posted on Feb 1, 2018 9:11 AM

GooseTalk wrote:


I went to Best Buy yesterday afternoon and picked up the 512 GB SanDisk Ultra. Installed it as internal drive and booted via external. Installed OS X on SSD and had exact same symptoms.


OK - likely an issue that can be solved with a new cable. We had a little discussion about what the underlying cause of SSD incompatibility is, but there is no solid answer other than a new one seems to help, even if the root cause is a mystery.


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Jan 31, 2018 6:28 PM in response to y_p_w

I don't know how safe it (and I don't recommend it) but there's discussion about wrapping SSDs in aluminum foil and/or ESD bags to sort of shield them. My big thing would be that a loose conductor inside the case might cause a short somewhere.


http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/EMI-shielding-for-SSD/td-p/55124

But but but...

... that guy talks about wrapping his drive in an anti-static bag covered with foil, but does not mention his results. Then it links to an OWC article with a procedure to wrap the CABLE in a metal-and-mylar self adhesive wrapping tape.


That cable-wrapping does a lot of Brue Computing's "Red Tape" fix, but simply adds metalized tape.


I am not sure there is evidence there to support complex EMI-RFI issues or solutions. Just simple brute force busted cables. (in fairness, I suppose it does not rule out more complex failure mechanisms)

Apr 24, 2018 11:30 AM in response to GooseTalk

Did you figure out what the problem was? I am also experiencing these problems with the Samsung 860 EVO and I re-installed the old Hard Drive Disk to see if it was a problem with the cable but now the laptop is stuck on the loading screen and it takes forever to load and then it will restart the loading bar. Which has led me to believe it could be the cable acting up.

Jan 31, 2018 12:01 PM in response to dwb

dwb wrote:


Now it is possible your problem is the SATA cable. A flaky SATA cable can work with slow rotational drives but fail to function with fast SSDs - I've seen that happen.


I've heard that claim, but I don't get why that would make a difference. SATA III hard drives communicate with the SATA interface just the same as a SATA SSD. It's purely an electronic front-end, and it's pretty much just loading or reading from the cache and then letting the drive controller do its thing with the cache. Most newer hard drives have a SATA III interface (I verified that in System Report with a WD 7200 RPM drive), and the bits are communicating at the same speeds as an SSD. Hard drive communications might be stalled by the limitations of the physical disks being written/read, but it's communicating at the same speed.

Jan 31, 2018 5:29 PM in response to y_p_w

There are a lot of reports of internal cables working fine with a regular drive, failing with a faster drive like an SSD. It's anecdotal, but there is a preponderance of evidence.


The two main proposed failure mechanisms are abrasion against the machined inner surface of the aluminum case, and conductor cracking (especially where the cable gets a strong crease to dive under the drive).


There is a close up of abrasion on a Youtube video by Brue computing, here: [unlike most youTube videos, this one has good camera work and deserves to "on film"]


MacBook Pro Hard Drive Cable Failure - Free fix and preventative maintenance - Question mark - YouTube

I have not seen anyone post a detailed technical analysis, so more information is not forthcoming from these posts. (Maybe on a hobbyist site?) But replacing the cable has solved this exact problem in case after case.

Feb 1, 2018 3:32 PM in response to y_p_w

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion and had already ordered the cable. Anyone who's worked with that vintage MBP for a few years knows that the HD cable is the Achille's heel for that design, so it's plausible that it's the problem here too.


I explored the EMI theory a bit last night by booting the SSD connected internally but without the lower case on which allowed me to hold the SSD in a variety of positions that would create a different EMI environment than the standard installed position. Not surprisingly, there was no change in behavior.

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