Not playing classical music movements in order

Very annoyingly, iTunes, the latest version update, 12.7.3.46, has broken the ability for my classical music movements to play in order.


I have music from dozens of genres, and always have my iTunes to shuffle playback of my entire library of music, and for the dozen and a half years that I have done this, when a classical piece with movements came up in the shuffle, it was always played, the whole piece, movements in order, and now no longer does, it is very frustrating!


Is this something Apple needs to fix that they obviously broke? Or, is there something I can do to make them play as they always have for over sixteen years?


Thanks for your time, and whatever assistance you may provide. All the best to you,

JPH

MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)

Posted on Feb 19, 2018 4:14 AM

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Posted on Feb 19, 2018 10:16 AM

Controls > Shuffle > Groupings.


As long as all of the movements are tagged with the same Grouping value then they ought to play together when you shuffle. See also Organize your classical music in iTunes - Apple Support for an archived support document on the work and movement features that are supposed to make organizing classical music somewhat better in recent versions of iTunes. Using a common value for Work ought to have the same effect.


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Feb 19, 2018 10:16 AM in response to MrJPH69

Controls > Shuffle > Groupings.


As long as all of the movements are tagged with the same Grouping value then they ought to play together when you shuffle. See also Organize your classical music in iTunes - Apple Support for an archived support document on the work and movement features that are supposed to make organizing classical music somewhat better in recent versions of iTunes. Using a common value for Work ought to have the same effect.


tt2

Apr 3, 2018 9:25 AM in response to pdzik

For each group of things that you want to keep together, select them, get info, and place a unique identifier in the Grouping field. E.g. if you want all of Giselle to play as one just put in Giselle, or you could select the tracks of act 1 and act 2 in turn and use Giselle, Act 1 and Giselle, Act 2. If you then shuffle by grouping tracks with no grouping will still play randomly but any grouping should be played from start to finish in sequence when it comes up.


tt2

Feb 19, 2018 12:36 PM in response to MrJPH69

Seeing as you're running on a Mac it should be possible to write a little AppleScript to copy values from work to grouping, or vice versa, or swap the values around. I've written the last one already since I'm importing a subset of my main library into a separate iCloud Music Library and work is filled in when I want it to be grouping (I use the field to control smart lists) and it would be easily modified to CopyWorkGrouping or CopyGroupingWork if those were the functions you needed.


Copy everything between the two lines into the Script Editor and save it as SwapWorkGrouping.scpt, or a more appropriate title if you change it slightly.


-- SwapWorkGrouping - V1.1 - © Steve MacGuire - 2018-02-19

tell application "iTunes"

if selection is not {} then

set sel to selection

repeat with aTrack in sel

set g to grouping of aTrack

set w to work of aTrack

set grouping of aTrack to w

set work of aTrack to g

end repeat

end if

end tell


You can comment out line 8 or 9 if you don't need it. To use the script select some tracks in iTunes first, then run the script with the play button in the script editor.


tt2

Feb 19, 2018 4:24 AM in response to MrJPH69

My apologies in not be as specific... it's not only that it doesn't play the whole classical piece in order any longer, the whole piece grouping is broken, and only a random movement is played, before it continues to shuffle on to another song... not that a piece is played in full, but movements out of order.


As I said, I have had this setup for over sixteen years, and practically everyday in those sixteen years, I have played my entire library while in shuffle mode, and has worked up until this very latest version release... at least I am pretty sure, it may have been the one before this current one, but don't think so, as I am sure I would have noticed.


Okay, thank you again for your time,

JPH

Feb 19, 2018 10:30 AM in response to turingtest2

Thank you, TT2,


Yes, I was aware of this, as this is what I did to my entire (smaller at the time) classical collection sixteen years ago, and now having to go in and manually do it again, with my now much larger classical collection of symphonies and concertos of various instrumental varieties, because Apple's iTunes v12.5 (by going in and manually doing them again (noticed that some movements had larger playback counts than other movements within the same piece, signifying that this has been broken for awhile longer than I had caught on) broke all of the groupings, is what I was frustratingly writing about.


I thank you though for your assistance, TT2, I do appreciate you taking the time to assist me, thank you... and lament Apple's continual downward spiral, lack of quality control, and increasing sucking of putting anything else out that is nothing more than shiny object toys, as opposed to the quality products of yester yore, that you could hang your hat on their dependability, reliabilty, and professional grade quality.


All the best to you, TT2. As for you Apple, why don't you try stepping it up.

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