iOS 11.3 - Delete Message Confirmation

rmbohnhoff wrote:

This is beyond stupid. I'm about ready to buy an Android phone!! every IOS update seems to add one more click or one more swipe.. more swipes and clicks are NOT better... one-touch functions are needed.

Ooh do it. Buy an Android phone. And then you can tell the Android people how stupid it is that Android makes you do the VERY SAME THING when you want to delete a message. Otherwise, we're just users and really don't care if you like this new (much needed) feature or not. Tell Apple, not us. But then it would have required you actually read past the first post, which you clearly didn't.

If you took the time (which you didn't) to read the thread, you'd see:

1. A link to let Apple know what you think was provided
2. This is a user to user only forum, so telling us what you think is pointless
3. The reason Apple did this was to help the many many many people who accidentally delete text messages EVERY day and to the forum to ask us regulars how they can get them back (most of the time, they can't). And yes, I along with most the people who are here daily helping these people think this is great and was much needed.
4. You don't have to use the swipe to delete a text message, thus you can avoid the confirmation

You can express your opinion. I certainly did, but for very valid reasons. I think helping people is a good thing, which is why I spend a lot of time helping users with real problems. I hardly think having to confirm (again ONLY if you use swipe to delete) you want to delete a text message is such a horrible thing for most people. And yes, Android has always made you do this.

I must admit this thread has gotten my ire the most of all threads. And that's because (you're not alone) people like you who have never posted on the forum, who likely just joined because you want to agree you don't like this one new featuer, who will likely never try to help others (the real purpose of these discussion forums) and who couldn't be bothered to read past the first post to see if maybe there is some reason they could learn about a new feature and how it might benefit anyone. That doesn't mean you have to like it. Just understand there are other people on this planet who also have needs and maybe, just maybe, this will help them.

So, rmbohnhoff, this is why I said it's a much needed feature.

rmbohnhoff wrote:

already did. looking at the responses on this thread, its obvious i'm not the only one.

It is not relevant whether you are the only one. This is a user to user technical support forum, and it is fruitless for you to post your opinion here. Nobody here can do anything for you. And, if you read the TOU, your post (and most of the others here) border on violating them. This forum is not for stating opinions. It is to seek technical support and help with your Apple stuff.

There is a paragraph at the bottom of this page with a link to the TOU. You might want to familiarize yourself with them.

GB

rmbohnhoff wrote:

This is beyond stupid. I'm about ready to buy an Android phone!! every IOS update seems to add one more click or one more swipe.. more swipes and clicks are NOT better... one-touch functions are needed.

Hey 'bot... Yes, you're correct. Buying Android is beyond stupid since Androids work exactly the same way (or perhaps you don't care).

roarman75 wrote:

Absolutely Frustrating. I’ll be keeping an eye open for the resolution .

Sleep deprivation is bad. Best to get some rest and close your eyes on a regular basis, cuz this isn't likely going to change. And for good reason. Read the thread, I'm tired of typing how you don't have to approve deleting a message. The answer is in this thread if you'd bother to read it.

@IdrisSeabright, I get from 15-30 spam messages per day and I presume they have figured out a way around the filter system because it only filters out messages from real people. I delete them from my telephone and 2 computers every day. I loved the "slide to delete" feature while it lasted and then they added yet another step to delete this crap. Fair enough that some people feel the need to be ask "are you sure". All I am asking is that they give us a way to turn the second warning off for those that don't like, want or need it. If I turn it off and then delete the wrong thing, I will live with it. Why would you make a process faster and then make it even slower than it was to start with? (BTW, if you haven't figured it out, I don't live in the USA so spam rules don't apply)

I'm actually on a time out, but just felt I could help you.

Based on the number of text messages you're deleting, I propose you're doing it a way that takes more time, even if there wasn't a confirm to delete. Given the way you're doing it, you would:

1. Open Message App
2. Swipe Left on Message
3. Tap Delete
4. Repeat for each message

This way would be much faster and there is NO confirm to delete, because Apple provided the best of both worlds for folks, just like you.

1. Open Message App
2. Tap Edit
3. Mark all messages you want to delete (no need to swipe anything and you can mark multiple messages at once)
4. Tap Delete and there is no confirm to delete and voila, all selected messages are deleted

TheSidewinder wrote:

Yes, I fully agree.

I *already* swiped the message left, then tapped delete.

Don't ask me if I'm really, really sure about that.

I already used two actions to tell you to delete the message, don't force me to make a third one.

And I've already left feedback.

See the first post on this page. This is not a forum to register your complaints. This is a user to user technical support forum. No one here cares how you feel about the change. Apple cares. Tell them: Apple - Feedback

Since you have already left feedback, then there is no point in your post here. If you want to rant, do it on social media.

GB

shh22 wrote:

You are correct. Steve won’t have allowed something as stupid as not allowing the end user to disable the feature.

You seem to have missed his point, which was it's more likely he would have been happy about the change and wondered why no one thought of this while he was living. I've certainly wondered why this much needed change took this long to come into iOS.

Going to bug report this right now!

This will likely fall upon deafer ears than ours.

It is not a bug, but an international change by Apple. You are absolutely free to dislike it and ask for it to be changed back.

I suggest you do that as seen below, not as a bug report. That will be wasted effort on your part as again, it is not likely to be seen by its developer as a bug.

Feedback for Apple goes here >>> http://apple.com/feedback

fricknfrack wrote:

I totally agree with all the complainers. I get way too many text messages to have do do the triple deleting step.... another Apple-forced stupid process. I spent several hours just trying to find out how to stop the extra steps to finally access this message board and learn I am not the only one affected.

Stating your preference here will accomplish nothing useful. Tell Apple what you'd like to see here:

Product Feedback - Apple

ericole wrote:

I just hope Apple doesn't "improve" Mail on the Mac and add this "feature" to it. swiping left on my magic trackpad and hitting that delete option is quick and painless. I'd HATE for another button to pup up requiring me to hit delete after that!

You should let Apple know how you feel here:

Product Feedback - Apple

ericole wrote:

Yes, I'm not sure why people think this is a non-issue. As it was, you had to swipe left, which THEN revealed the delete option. Then you had to TAP to actually delete. That two-step process should be enough to stop people from accidentally deleting something. But now, we have a THIRD step to perform - hitting delete AGAIN.

Maybe people simply live their life in Messages and if they delete a message they didn't mean to then horrible things will happen. I don't. But again, if you flub up a two-step delete process, you can just as easily flub up a 3-step process. All we need is an option to turn off that second "do you really want to delete" option? This kind of process has existed on Windows trash for years, and it's always been an annoyance to me that I couldn't opt to turn off that last-ditch reminder.

Once again, we get you don't like or understand why anyone else would like this feature.

Because for a lot of people who accidentally delete a text message (you know that other 99%) say off of their iPhone that contains critical information they can move to their computer or their iPad and retrieve the information. With the adoption of iCloud Messages it will remove the text from all of their devices when they delete it.

Just so everyone that comes here is clear, there are mainly six people on this thread that think this change is good (gail from Maine, Lawrence Finch, LACAllen, rbrylawski, IdrisSeabright, and Philly_Phan 😕 - I may have misspelled some of them). For those six people who apparently know a lot of people who consciously followed the previous 2-step process and deleted messages, or did it themselves (and some have admitted), then said it was an accident, this is a great thing for them. I'm not really sure how though, because as I pointed out earlier, the visual interface of this new third step doesn't show you what you are deleting and give you a chance to double check, unless you hit "cancel" and start all over.

Most everyone else that finds this threat hates the change and merely wants one thing - for Apple to provide an option to turn it off so it will work the way it did before. 😉

The arguments the six have given for why this is the greatest thing are all over the place, while the arguments for why it is not and Apple should at least give us an option are simple - it wastes our time and breaks a LOT of muscle memory doing something completely unnecessary (going from a 2-step process to a 3-step process just to delete a message).

So just a word of warning, if you come here because you googled looking for a way to stop this behavior, like most of the rest of us probably did, you will learn you can't change it. Also, one of those six will probably tell you it's a great feature and it works just like Apple planned it - so deal with it and you are a crazy person to voice your opinion here or to complain. 😐 You should also know how to provide Apple feedback on this, and that link has been provided many times in this thread. So yes, send that feedback to Apple to please provide an option to turn that extra step off.