Calendar Error
"Holi" just showed up on March 2, 2018 on my calendar on all of my devices and I can't remove it. Any ideas?
iMac, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)
"Holi" just showed up on March 2, 2018 on my calendar on all of my devices and I can't remove it. Any ideas?
iMac, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)
Portefoi13 wrote:
I think I’d be offended if I lived in India and saw my holiday was labeled as a “US Holiday”.
Well, Easter is on the Indian calendar. Are you offended because it is a US Holiday?
usernamechallenged wrote:
Thanks. I'll do that... but I bet they ARE paying attention to this thread and rolling their eyes!
Well, actually they are, thanks to the vast number of posts that have been reported by users that the hosts have chosen to remove. I can't comment on what they are doing with their eyes, as I can't see them, but a couple of them have reported in a private forum that they are monitoring this and several other similar threads. Normally, BTW, they don't monitor every post in every thread, they depend on users (level 2 and higher) to report posts that should be reviewed.
I just noticed I must be a terrible American. I have my home page set to Google.com on all my browsers and didn't notice the Google Doodle was all about Holi. I'm so ashamed and I didn't complain to Google even once. 😢
This isn’t a US Holiday, so i’m not sure where the rationale comes from. But why stop there? Why not add all foreign religious holidays under U.S. Holidays. While your at it, be sure to add all the American holidays to all the phones you sell in India.. Add Easter to the phones you sell in Saudi Arabia. Have some fun.
CountryGirl56 wrote:
Mucho* Gracias. (I'm not really Spanish) 😁
😎
But, lots of American citizens have Spanish as either their first or second language. I've finally gotten around to starting to study it.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
CountryGirl56 wrote:
Mucho* Gracias. (I'm not really Spanish) 😁
😎
But, lots of American citizens have Spanish as either their first or second language. I've finally gotten around to starting to study it.
Really? I thought they only spoke Spanish in Spain. 😁
I tried to learn Spanich in 9th grade. It didn't go well. I'm terrible with languages for some reason. I do okay with English. 😎
CountryGirl56 wrote:
IdrisSeabright wrote:
CountryGirl56 wrote:
Mucho* Gracias. (I'm not really Spanish) 😁
😎
But, lots of American citizens have Spanish as either their first or second language. I've finally gotten around to starting to study it.
Really? I thought they only spoke Spanish in Spain. 😁
I tried to learn Spanich in 9th grade. It didn't go well. I'm terrible with languages for some reason. I do okay with English. 😎
I think it's easier for me to learn a language now than it was in high school. I'm doing this purely because I want to. And, it's the only course I'm taking.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
CountryGirl56 wrote:
I also can't roll my R's. 😮
Someone told me that they read the way to learn how to do that was to say "butter" a whole bunch of times in a row really fast.
Sounds like a plan but I can't say "butter" a whole bunch of times in a row, fast or otherwise. 😝
CountryGirl56 wrote:
IdrisSeabright wrote:
CountryGirl56 wrote:
I also can't roll my R's. 😮
Someone told me that they read the way to learn how to do that was to say "butter" a whole bunch of times in a row really fast.
Sounds like a plan but I can't say "butter" a whole bunch of times in a row, fast or otherwise. 😝
😎
IdrisSeabright wrote:
CountryGirl56 wrote:
I also can't roll my R's. 😮
Someone told me that they read the way to learn how to do that was to say "butter" a whole bunch of times in a row really fast.
No-one rolls her R's like a French girl rolls her R's.
Csound1 and I have a long-standing virtual relationship in the Lounge forum. Along with most of the other high point posters in this thread. Some of us have even met in person at Apple meet-up events.
I'm actually very familiar with the Hindu holiday. In fact, I celebrate many Indian holidays, including Onum and Navratri, just to name 2. Not only are roughly 1/2 my coworkers Mallus, my wife is a Guju. As far as Eid al Fitr is concerned, I'm also familiar with it. My following point applies to that as well, so back to Holi. When you say Holi is "celebrated by millions," I'm presuming you meant internationally. Then yes, you would be correct. If you meant the US, then I believe you might be 'stretching' numbers. Perhaps many coworkers and neighbors of Indians might go out and celebrate Holi, but I'll wager quite a-lot in saying that the average American citizen isn't celebrating Holi. Why? It's simple. The population of the US is roughly 325 million. The Indian population was around 2 million in the US in 2010 according to the census. As we don't have figures for 2018, I don't think it's too far out in left field to assume that the Indian population to the overall population is 'roughly' similar today in terms of percentages, which according to good ol' Wikipedia puts it around 1% of the population in 2016. So unless you're assuming that every single Indian in America is celebrating Holi (which would be silly to assume, just as it would be to say that all American Christians celebrate Easter) than you might be under some assumption that there's just a lot of "regular Joes" out there throwing color at each other, which also seems dubious. The imprint of 'Holi' isn't deeply rooted in American soil, yet. A holiday *typically* reflects a country's history, its 'major' religions, historic figures, etc. Pretty normal stuff. India, unlike the US, celebrates many varying religious holidays, which naturally makes sense considering their own demographics. Holi is not traditionally celebrated by too many (non-Indians) *within* the US, and by-far, most people in this country have no idea what the holiday is. If they did, we wouldn't need such an explosion of news suddenly educating people everywhere on why the word "Holi" suddenly showed up on their phones. We would already know it. I'm pretty sure you won't find too many "Thanksgiving" reminders on iPhones sold outside the US, and that (naturally) makes sense. So regardless of what you call it, a "US Holiday" or otherwise, it's semantics and not really that important. Unlike you, I don't think Holi is so embedded on American societal norms that we need a reminder placed on our phones for it. It simply isn't comparable to holidays that have been widely celebrated in the US for years, in some cases more than a few hundred, so the comparisons you make aren't really that strong. I do think we both agree on one point, that the holiday is awesome. I think the holiday is fantastic and extremely fun! Where we disagree, is that I don't think we all need a reminder for it. Just as I don't think we need a reminder for "Bastille Day" or "Día de Muertos" either. It seems that Apple agrees, for now.
Ideally there would be no religious holidays on Apple's calendar, it should be the responsibility of the believer too download a calendar appropriate to their particular prejudice leaving the rest of us out of it. But one segment of society objected strenuously when Apple did just that, so we ended up here.
seattleCubano wrote:
A holiday *typically* reflects a country's history, its 'major' religions, historic figures, etc.
According to whom? It's Apple's calendar, they can put "National Americans Isolationist Day" on it if they want to. Apple provides one possible calendar. If it somehow interferes with your personal idea of what it means for something to be a U.S. calendar, don't use that calendar.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
seattleCubano wrote:
A holiday *typically* reflects a country's history, its 'major' religions, historic figures, etc.
According to whom? It's Apple's calendar, they can put "National Americans Isolationist Day" on it if they want to. Apple provides one possible calendar. If it somehow interferes with your personal idea of what it means for something to be a U.S. calendar, don't use that calendar.
Even with that view, the USA's 4 most widely observed religions are Christianity (in its dozen or more forms), Judaism (about 4-5 significant forms) Hinduism (too many forms to count), and Islam (~2 major forms). Those are the 4 that are included in Apple's calendar.
If the calendar were to take history into account, the vast majority of the founding fathers were none of the above. Many were Deists, Universalists, Friends, or outright atheists (Thomas Paine who wrote Common Sense was a rabid atheist, a fact that is not covered in standard history texts). There were also a number of Jews among the founding fathers, the most notable, Chaim Salomon. who arranged for French loans to be converted to cash to finance the American Revolution. Without his help there's a good chance the US would not exist.
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