Calendar Error

Lawrence Finch wrote:

nebnp wrote:

The 1st includes foreign holidays...the latter seems to only have Holidays in the United States, though it isn’t very complete I.e. no Memorial Day.

Just WHAT are you talking about? There are NO "foreign" holidays in the Apple US Holidays calendar. Every holiday listed is celebrated in the US. If you consider any of them to be foreign, then clearly Easter must be a "foreign" holiday also.

I think, by "foreign", they mean not white enough or Christian enough. And, whose ancestors arrived later than theirs. It's ok to put a holiday on the calendar that honors someone who never set foot in the U.S. (Columbus) but, heaven forfend, there should be holidays that actual U.S. citizens celebrate.

Weirdly, I think most of those people whining about "foreign" holidays, probably had ancestors who came over later than mine. And, lets not get JimmyCMPT involved.

I appreciate the irony of Columbus. If he's so important to Italians, why is his tomb in Seville, Spain (an impressive tomb it is, also)? And why didn't Italy finance his 4 voyages, rather than Spain? He may have been born Italian, but he was Spanish by adoption.

CountryGirl56 wrote:

Today was National Peanut Butter Lover’s Day and I'm upset it's not included in Calendar. 😠

And I bet National Almod Butter Lover's Day isn't on there, either. Of all the nerve!

I used to create my own database modules back in the days when there weren't nearly the variety of apps now. That was on my Amiga. Best computer ever! My issue with the Apple calendar is simply that it is there already and customizable to a degree, but not enough. What I would like to see is all these holidays, religious, historical, whatever, in a smaller font size and at the bottom of the space. They would be available for anyone needing to know, but less prominent than your own entries in larger type and at the top. This will become more necessary as Apple adds everything from Samhain (Oct 31/Nov 1) to Clear The Shelters Day (Aug 19). A double click would bring up, not only the meager details they currently provide, but also recipes on National Bacon Day (Dec 30) and National Chocolate Day (Oct 28, but not to be confused with Nat'l Chocolate Cake Day on Jan 27). When you're through with your chocolate and bacon goodies you can get back to work without the reminders getting in your way. Are you listening, Apple?

usernamechallenged wrote:

I used to create my own database modules back in the days when there weren't nearly the variety of apps now. That was on my Amiga. Best computer ever! My issue with the Apple calendar is simply that it is there already and customizable to a degree, but not enough. What I would like to see is all these holidays, religious, historical, whatever, in a smaller font size and at the bottom of the space. They would be available for anyone needing to know, but less prominent than your own entries in larger type and at the top. This will become more necessary as Apple adds everything from Samhain (Oct 31/Nov 1) to Clear The Shelters Day (Aug 19). A double click would bring up, not only the meager details they currently provide, but also recipes on National Bacon Day (Dec 30) and National Chocolate Day (Oct 28, but not to be confused with Nat'l Chocolate Cake Day on Jan 27). When you're through with your chocolate and bacon goodies you can get back to work without the reminders getting in your way. Are you listening, Apple?

No, they're not listening here. However, you can certainly submit your excellent feedback here:

Product Feedback - Apple

You seem to not understand the difference between what a US Holiday is and what a holiday celebrated mainly in a different country is. Holi “...is a Hindu spring festival celebrated on the *Indian Subcontinent*...”. -from Wikipedia.

It actually is not a US Holiday. It’s an import.

I am not saying there is something wrong with celebrating the holiday. I think it’s a colorful, messy, beautiful way to celebrate a season change in a different country... which is not the United States of America. OUR United States of America season change is March 20/21, so there’s a difference there. If you’re celebrating Holi, you are celebrating another country’s season change, from a different part of the planet. Super. But, again, if we are going to label things, label correctly. NOT a US Holiday. Should NOT BE LABELED AS A U.S. HOLIDAY. I think that’s the point attempting to be made. Respect the culture of the country you are living in. Stop trying to make it the country you or your family left in an attempt to create a better life. Respect our origins and our culture, as it is actually different than yours. And if you want us to respect YOUR ORIGINS, respect OURS! Pretty simple.

Portefoi13 wrote:

You seem to not understand the difference between what a US Holiday is and what a holiday celebrated mainly in a different country is. Holi “...is a Hindu spring festival celebrated on the *Indian Subcontinent*...”. -from Wikipedia.

It actually is not a US Holiday. It’s an import.

Easter and Christmas are holidays that were imported from the Middle East and Europe. Ok, take them off the calendar.

NOT a US Holiday. Should NOT BE LABELED AS A U.S. HOLIDAY.

Please provide a definition of "U.S. Holiday". If you mean the Federal Government Employees holidays, well that includes Christmas but not Easter. And, it actually only applies to Federal Government Employees.

Respect the culture of the country you are living in. Stop trying to make it the country you or your family left in an attempt to create a better life. Respect our origins and our culture, as it is actually different than yours. And if you want us to respect YOUR ORIGINS, respect OURS! Pretty simple.

I don't actually care what holidays you do or don't want on your phone. What I do care about is the notion that people are attempting to promulgate on this forum is that American culture is white, Christian and European, that anything else is foreign and somehow not American. That is absurd.

I also find it interesting that you seem to have assumed, because I do no support the notion that the millions of Hindu citizens of the U.S. are somehow less American than you are, that I must be one of those not American enough people. Thank you.

CountryGirl56 wrote:

You're welcome. FWIW, I think trying to explain the calendar issue is a lost cause.

You're probably right. However, I can't help being saddened, angered by the people who would diminish the U.S. their small minded attitudes.

I have bookmarked a thread with Limnos's excellent summary post. I should start using it.

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."

- John Stuart Mill

Regarding:

"I am not saying there is something wrong with celebrating the holiday. I think it’s a colorful, messy, beautiful way to celebrate a season change in a different country... which is not the United States of America."

Look, we can all read between those lines and passive-aggressive comment.

Moreover, if this country were not all of these things & more, I'd leave. That's what I adore about being born here & living here. Like many people here, it and again, the people within, are colorful yet messy which makes it beautiful and imperfectly perfect.

I don't know what USA you're living in nor the people you surround yourself witb, but it's not the very real and diverse one. I'd be bored sick with such a one-sided, biased attitude. I like "colorful and messy" - that is beauty in one of its truest forms .

IdrisSeabright wrote:

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."

- John Stuart Mill

It's a nice quote and somewhat fitting. but the "Bad men" in this case are doing nothing more than whining on a website about the Calendar and are unlikely to change their minds.

There are more important issues to spend one's time on I think.

I do understand your frustration.

We are “the melting pot” aren’t we? If we are still around (humans, I mean) in another couple hundred years, I hope there is still a decent account of how this all came to be and why and how nature made us appear the way we do. Why people in the U. S. were called “WOPs” when they got here, going through all the trials and tribulations of becoming a US citizen... my apologies for even asking a question, which was why Apple labeled it as a “US Holiday” not in the least bit meant to be offensive. I did get away from my main question. Wouldn’t matter if I had, I guess we are all created to be forgotten as our cultures change or disappear over time. Not a big deal, I guess. It just struck me funny that it was labeled as a US Holiday. It made me question other countries and if we all have the same technology, do all of our holidays (collectively, as a species, meaning all countries), do they all show up as “US Holidays”? Is that a better question?

Not at all what I was saying.

Let me ask a different way.

If this holiday shows up as a US Holiday, does it show up in India as a US Holiday? I mean, I know Apple products are imported/exported all over the place. Im NOT trying to imply anyone is better than anyone else. Let’s face it, every country has its “star” quality, lol. Technology, weapons, communications, etc. it’s a big planet. US is NOT the top of the totem.

So, seeing as how we all kind of share the same technology, is it labeled differently in different countries?

I know everyone likes to jump on the “bad guy”, and I am today’s bad guy. There will always be at least one person who is offended by something, so I’m not even put off by that. But I don’t understand why it’s even labeled as “US”, then. Why not just general “Holidays” or “days to take note of” since half of the “US Holidays” are just days the gov’t takes a day off anyways?

Why bother putting the label on it, since people are offended by everything? I’m just wondering why the label that’s entirely incorrect on a myriad of levels, not just the “US.” part is used?

I think I’d be offended if I lived in India and saw my holiday was labeled as a “US Holiday”. I don’t know. Just asking questions. I was taught that it is part of how you learn correctly. Ask questions. Yes, I used the wrong words initially, but you can’t learn from jerks just jumping down your throat when you say the wrong thing.

I’m asking questions, not just assuming I know everything.

Has anyone else had their post edited by the Apple thought police? I was astonished to just receive an email saying that my original post violated their sensibilities:

"We’ve edited your post Calendar Error because it contained rants or complaints that weren’t constructive."

There was absolutely NOTHING resembling a rant and my so-called "complaint" wasn't half as nit-picking as what I've been reading on this thread!

Thanks for showing me the error of my ways, Apple, but more than what is or is not featured on your precious calendar I am offended by censorship. I'm outta here....

Most of us have had posts deleted due to not following the policies & procedures we all agreed to upon signing up.

You don't make a strong defense however, by responding with a rant., which supports their statement.....

That was actually a complaint about unwarranted censorship.

Originally said in good humor, but obviously not acceptable. It will probably be edited again or deleted. Fine. Have fun, y'all.
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