iPhone X Camera Issues - Excessive Lens Flare

Hello,


I purchased my first iPhone (iPhone X) last November and I have never been happy with the camera. Obviously, I can't compare apples to oranges (pun intended), but my old Google Nexus 6P camera seemed far superior when taking photos.


While I can't say blurry zoomed in images is worth complaining about, but when going out for dinner with family the other night I found that an iPhone 6 Plus was clearly taking much better photos.


My iPhone has been reset and the lens was cleaned with a soft sunglasses cloth before using the camera. Live Photos and HDR was turned off but did not fix the issue. All other settings are default and were taken with the Photo mode, not the Portrait or Square option.


I booked an appointment with the Genius Bar today and after a quick diagnostic test, my iPhone got the all clear. Even after showing him the photos from my iPhone and that from an iPhone 6 Plus, he said I have to play around with the contrast to fix the issue. To me, that is a not a solution and did not fix the issue. I would like to point out no changes were made to the camera settings before the photos were taken with the iPhone 6 Plus. It was a matter of being pulled out of the pocket and take a photo. Point and shoot, if an iPhone 6 can do it why can't an iPhone X?


I took a photo of a street this evening and even with the contrast down there was lens flare (image 5 below).


I have 18 months left on my Apple Care but surely this issue is covered under warranty?


My question is, is there an issue with my iPhone, or do older iPhone 6 Plus just take better photo's?


Should I go back to Apple and say fix it or do I put up with taking crappy photos?


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Posted on Jul 11, 2018 4:07 AM

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Posted on Jul 20, 2018 4:25 AM

The impossible just happened, I got a NEW iPhone X replacement. 😀🙂😁😎


After nearly 5 hours on support chats, Genius Bar reservations, and phone calls with Apple, I found someone that agreed that the photos were not acceptable. He even grabbed a store iPhone X and went outside to compare photos. Sure enough, there were big differences, especially with the lens flare. He made sure all the camera settings were the same as well.


We tested the new iPhone X with the same photos to make sure and there was no excessive lens flare.


Seven Apple Support employees were wrong.


Gary, if you are having similar issues, don't back down. Learn what rights you have as the consumer and lodge a complaint if necessary. Try making a Genius Bar Reservation at nighttime and keep doing it until you find that person who wants to help.


I am going to keep my complaint with the ACCC as it should not have been this hard to get a repair or replacement under warranty.



All the best.

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Jul 20, 2018 4:25 AM in response to Gary Buffam1

The impossible just happened, I got a NEW iPhone X replacement. 😀🙂😁😎


After nearly 5 hours on support chats, Genius Bar reservations, and phone calls with Apple, I found someone that agreed that the photos were not acceptable. He even grabbed a store iPhone X and went outside to compare photos. Sure enough, there were big differences, especially with the lens flare. He made sure all the camera settings were the same as well.


We tested the new iPhone X with the same photos to make sure and there was no excessive lens flare.


Seven Apple Support employees were wrong.


Gary, if you are having similar issues, don't back down. Learn what rights you have as the consumer and lodge a complaint if necessary. Try making a Genius Bar Reservation at nighttime and keep doing it until you find that person who wants to help.


I am going to keep my complaint with the ACCC as it should not have been this hard to get a repair or replacement under warranty.



All the best.

Jul 20, 2018 7:44 PM in response to Gary Buffam1

Yeah. We went outside to test by taking a photo of the street. Just holding both phones up together side by side you could clearly see the issue (camera settings were the same). All the car headlights and street lights had severe lens flare issues on my phone, and the image was darker and not as clear as the other. No issues at all on the test iPhone X.


On my previous visit to the Genius Bar, and although it was daytime, all he did was take a photo inside the store before saying there are no issues. The lighting in the Apple Store is almost perfect, so of course he would see no issues.


I was just lucky I could get a nighttime reservation at the Genius Bar as I had been trying for well over a week to get one. The problem is you can only see three days ahead when making a reservation. I was also fortunate to find someone who was interested in my issue and would come out of the store to test taking photos. I will be writing to his manager today with an appreciation letter for his efforts.


Not sure if it means anything but the model numbers have changed between my iPhone X's. The old model number was MQA52X/A and the replacement one is NQA52ZP/A.

Jul 14, 2018 4:04 AM in response to RugbyFan05

In my opinion it would be less complicated, to see if I can find another person, using an iPhone X, and ask them to take a picture at night. Then you would have proof, when you visit the Apple Store again, if your camera is defective, or the camera of an iPhone X is not capable better pictures at night.

Plus, looking at this page iPhone X - Apple, you can't see any lens flare.

Also check this page:

iPhone X Diary: Putting the camera to the test, and being even more ...

Jul 12, 2018 1:24 AM in response to panchososa694

I just did another full reset - 'Erase All Content and Settings' and the problem is still there. Photo's below.


I do not accept that an iPhone 6 can take better photos than an iPhone X. Nighttime photo's on the iPhone X are unusable.


Unless there are any other suggestions, I am going to demand that they fix the issue or replace the iPhone with a new one. Do I go back to the Genis Bar or send it in for repairs?



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Jul 12, 2018 3:44 AM in response to RugbyFan05

Just got off another support chat with Apple. What they are doing is criminal.


The first person said if I was not satisfied with the quality of the photo I had to buy a new iPhone X.

The Second person said I would have to pay $99 under Apple Care + to get it fixed, despite the iPhone X still being under warranty.


After nearly 2 hours in Apple Support Chat, they said someone would call me tomorrow to discuss my options.

From the conversation, it seems Apple is not interested in fixing this issue. My only option seems to be making a complaint to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Apple must adhere to The Australian Consumer Law and repair the iPhone under warranty.


This was my first iPhone, and I think it will be my last.


  1. Two Factory Resets did not fix the issue.
  2. Apple Genius Bar said the Diagnostics passed, did not fix the issue.
  3. Apparently, a repair or replacement will not fix the issue


If someone has an iPhone X, can you please post a nighttime photo with a street lamp or bright light in it? I want to see if this is an issue for all iPhone X's or just mine.



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Jul 17, 2018 9:35 PM in response to Gary Buffam1

Hi Gary,


Sorry to hear that you are having issues with your iPhone X as well. I hope you will have better luck with Apple than I did.


I got feedback from Apple's escalations team and I was told the photos are normal. I was already expecting that they would be of no help anyway. It seems to be a trend with Apple.


I have now lodged my complaint with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. If Apple said they will fix the issue under Apple Care+ then they can fix it under warranty. I will get this fixed under warranty.


To show what you are up against I have posted the email I received below.



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Jul 11, 2018 10:21 PM in response to panchososa694

Thanks panchososa694,


Unfortunately, those guides do not help. I have already reset my phone to factory default. Except for turning HDR off no other settings had been changed. I was informed by the iPhone 6 Plus user that he had not changed any settings either.


Is there a problem with the camera on my iPhone X? The Apple Staff member at the Genius Bar thinks the photos are acceptable, even when showing him the comparisons. I have never had this issue on any of my previous phones, albeit they were Andriod phones, and I don't think it should be acceptable on an AUD $1,900 iPhone.

Jul 13, 2018 7:07 PM in response to Ingo2711

Hi Ingo2711,

Thank you for your response.


I am told that Apple can only see the times that we see when it comes to Genis Bar reservations. The latest appointments available are around 4pm and it does not get dark until around 6pm. They can’t do a special appointment for me.

All nighttime photos are unusable. I have seen nighttime photos form iPhone X’s online and not one had lens flare.

I have already shown multiple photos and comparisons to the Genis Bar member and to the 5 Apple Support staff I have spoken to.

After being on the phone for an hour on Friday,


my case has now been escalated to the Engineering Team. I will find out on Wednesday what they said.

It should not be this hard for someone to look at my iPhone and fix the issue. I refuse to pay the $99 for repairs under Apple Care + out of principle. This needs to be fixed under warranty.

In Australia, Apple has a bad reputation for breaching the Australian Consumer Law when it comes to warranty repairs or replacements.

Being told by Apple to buy a new iPhone if I am not satisfied is not a solution.

I am slowly building my case.

Jul 19, 2018 7:26 AM in response to RugbyFan05

I have lodged my complaint with the ACCC. It will take at least 15 business days to get any sort of response. I can't see this being resolved any time soon though but I refuse to pay $99 for repairs under Apple Care +. It's the principle of the matter.


I was able to make another Genius Bar reservation for tomorrow night. It will be my last shot with Apple but I just hope they will have a spare iPhone X available so we can compare nighttime photos.


Below are some iPhone X nighttime photos I found on Flickr (the first one is a screenshot as I was unable to download it). I will show these and some others I found at my appointment tomorrow night. These are what I would expect for an iPhone X.


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Jul 19, 2018 9:55 PM in response to Gary Buffam1

Hi Gary,


I will let you know how I go. I am getting some examples ready to show them on my iPad now, but I don't see Apple changing their mind. But there is a small chance I will get someone who sees that clearly there is an issue.


Below are some other photos on I found on Flickr with lighting that would be impossible to capture on my iPhone X. All the light sources in these photos would have severe lens flare and be unusable.



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