How to turn off two factor authentication?

I agree with you security is of course important but it needs to work for everyone and what ever said about the great Steve Jobs he always made it work RIP

This new corporate monster that Apple has become will only damage what overall is a great product and a great brand.

Taking away peoples ability to control their own security is only the beginning of what may come.

Apple have been at the forefront of new highly desirable and usable technology, unfortunately they have lost direction.

2FA I'm sure is put there for everyone's safety but until it can work efficiently and faultlessly for everybody, we need the ability to choose not to use it.

I'm well aware before it kicks off in here again that yes I turned it on however the deceptive and misleading set up procedure tricked myself and many others into turning it on and I add no warning to turn it off before its permanent .

I also add the fact that Apple refuse to turn it off not because they can't but because they won't.

The sad sad thing about all of this is that the combination of controlling users lives and constant new unnecessary devices every month the fact that they are fighting every third party repairers and vastly overpriced repairs from the company its self all of this and the many many other factors like device pre redundancy will eventually cause severe or significant damage to this great brand

But it is not "your" security that is the issue. You chose to store personal and financial information on Apple's hardware. Apple has every right and even a responsibility to see that data is kept under some minimal level of security they deem fit relative to their legal liability for storing that data at your request.

And every company that you chose to use to host personal information has that same right to set the standards by which you can access their servers and system. All companies set their own minimal standards for password complexity, what is required to reset your password or recover an account, what secondary security settings are required of users (security questions, 2 factor logins, use of dongles or whatever). And as more hacks occur, and more companies are sued over those hacks, expect the security of a lot of online sites to get re-vamped to include mandatory 2 step login systems.

They have that right because it is their system security they care about, not your personal security. They are trying to avoid compromises of their systems that you of your own free will have chosen to use, not your personal systems.

Your only choice is to use, or not use, any particular companies online services.

I AGREE the-wolf I understand the security issue but when i go overseas, Apple doesn’t hear me... I DO NOT TAKE MY CELL PHONE so 2FA would not work for me. IF you just activated 2FA by mistake, if you log out of your account here, then log back in, CHOOSE ‘OTHER’ in the screen AFTER the login, it is THERE you can DISABLE 2FA, but your red indicator on your settings will stay red, prompting you to activate 2FA, just ignore it and live with the red alert. I do agree with you. I used to love Apple. I am now finding LOTS of issues with my new Ipad pro 11 2020. I HATE IT. No doubt they will force facial recognition so then I will leave Apple. Thanks for your reply.

NONE of my files are saved on the cloud or on Apple servers. Everything is saved on my ipad in the 512 GB of memory that I purchased. So in my particular case, Apple has no right to FORCE me in to 2FA

Everything is saved on my ipad in the 512 GB of memory that I purchased

It may be "saved", but it is NOT safe there. You may want to give some serious thought on backing up your content to either a computer or external hard drive, USB stick, or whatever. It is inherently dangerous not to have a backup. Every electronic part will fail at some point.

TangoParrot wrote:

NONE of my files are saved on the cloud or on Apple servers. Everything is saved on my ipad in the 512 GB of memory that I purchased. So in my particular case, Apple has no right to FORCE me in to 2FA

So, you don't back up any information to iCloud, use iCloud Syncing for Messages, share photos, use Apple Pay, have a payment instrument saved in your iTunes account?

TangoParrot wrote:

NONE of my files are saved on the cloud or on Apple servers. Everything is saved on my ipad in the 512 GB of memory that I purchased. So in my particular case, Apple has no right to FORCE me in to 2FA

So you’ve never bought anything from the App, Music or Book Stores? Never had payment information linked to your AppleID? Don’t use iCloud email, messages in iCloud? Don’t backup data to iCloud? You don’t use Find My with Activation Lock? You don’t use location services for anything? You don’t use iCloud Keychain, home kit, the health app, none of those?

The minute you create an AppleID you’ve got personal data on Apple’s system. Which in turn means they do indeed have every right to enforce login security requirements for how one accesses one’s AppleID. They also want to ensure that nobody else can access your AppleID and hi-jack it from you.

Again, it is not “your” security. It is about Apple’s own system’s security and ensuring that only the people who made an AppleID can login to that AppleID on Apple’s system.

It's an option that users should have a full control of and to decide what works for them. Thanks for recommending Android, I already did and so did others. It's 2020 and if security is the flimsy excuse Apple could only think of, they are way behind in ideas and innovation.

edagawin wrote:

It's an option that users should have a full control of and to decide what works for them. Thanks for recommending Android, I already did and so did others. It's 2020 and if security is the flimsy excuse Apple could only think of, they are way behind in ideas and innovation.

You have full control. over your mobile device usage. Don't use a service requiring an Apple ID.

Having an out weakens the system. You had 14 days to opt out. You chose not to. Full control.,

I'm sure you and everybody here know that we are discussing about after the 14-day opt out period that many mistakenly chose or not to automatically turn on. I sense dishonesty with your reply and so does my whole feeling with Apple.

I understand that. People come here to look for honest help and answer. If all we get is condescension and snide remarks from Apple cheerleaders like you that does not help the problem nor do consumers develop their faith in Apple.

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i never received a message about this not sure what u r talking about just consider it very inconvenient when i dont really think its gonna slow down a hacker they tend to go through back doors not front entrances

i dont really think its gonna slow down a hacker they tend to go through back doors not front entrances

You are right. It won't slow down a hacker. It stops them.

There are no back doors on an iOS device. Unless you create one by altering the iOS on your device.

i never received a message about this

I don't believe this is true.

Why should it be your decisions when you’re not the one legally responsible for the security of the data, and you don’t own the hardware that is storing it? Surely the one legally culpable for the data has the right to secure it as they see fit?

You of course always have the right to not use an AppleID for anything, nor store any data in Apple’s online systems. But that you get to decide the security requirements for someone else’s online services is absurd. You’ve never enjoyed that right - not since the dawn of the internet and World Wide Web.

Wow

now I’m really confused, you made the statement that Apple devices are un hackable this is simply not true.

it is totally possible to hack any device regardless of security measures which are built in. This simple fact that it’s built in means if you can hack one you can hack all, Further to this YouTube is full of iPhone hacks and with appropriate software (I won’t name it ) it’s frighteningly easy.

As I said before never say impossible the titanic was UNSINKABLE hmmmm.

whilst I do believe Apple take security both theirs and ours very seriously, Sending any data over any network makes it hackable I use a lot of ethical hacking security software and it’s truly scary how easy our data is retrieved.

I will add Apple security is extremely good but as with any digital device it’s not infallible.

2FA is a great step towards better security but until it works for everyone we should still be offered an alternative preferably without requiring the use of any over air data.

NFC technology could easily be used and even made into rolling code with the correct software, this way no external input via iCloud or sms and no internet connection required.

2FA is better than previous security but still has too many faults to be universally and totally secure