How to turn off two factor authentication?

And yet those who do not support Apple Speak have their post's moderated while the posts of those who do Apple Speak are unmodified.

I am wondering why the Apple Speak posters are even engaged in the topic if they have no solution.

ios_is_a_pain wrote:

'using a Google voice number as one of your trusted numbers'......so IOS relies Google to cover a flaw in IOS processes.

That is so funny on all levels.... maybe they could as Google to fix IOS for them.

2FA, not iOS, can use a phone number as a backup.

That it's a Google number is irrelevant. Using your logic you could also think that 2FA relies on AT&T, Sprint or any other provider of a phone service.

Facts matter.

That you don't like 2FA does not mean it's flawed. 100s of millions of 2FA users around the world use it successfully every day.

ios_is_a_pain wrote:

but you need two devices, one to put the password in, one to receive the 2fa number (be that cellular or wifi).....so even if i remove the second device, the 2fa then goes by SMS to my phone, which cannot be removed. Already been through this with Apple tech support, and they have no solution.

No you do not! Login to your AppleID on your Mac, enter the password, get the code via 2FA encrypted iCloud notification and put it in. Done. Apple 2FA codes are simultaneously sent via encrypted iCloud notifications to ALL your trusted devices. Any one with a SINGLE device can use 2FA just fine, be that SINGLE device an iPhone, an iPad, an iPod touch or a Mac.

The ONLY time a 2FA will be sent as SMS (or automated voice message) is if you request the code be sent to your backup contact number.

When I need a code it simultaneously comes to my iPhone, my 3 iPads and my 2 Macs. Doesn’t matter what device I need it on, it will pop up as a notification on that trusted device as long as that trusted device has an internet connection (WiFi, ethernet, MiFi, cellular data connection - doesn’t matter as long as the device has internet access).

Would you care to educate me:

Who is/are "Apple Speak" poster(s)?

We do not work for Apple.

We do not get paid by Apple.

We are volunteers - simply other users.

So we cannot change anything regarding Apple policies or features or whatever.

This is NOT Apple support.

And yes, you are misinformed, most of us have had posts edited or deleted.

ios_is_a_pain wrote:

And yet those who do not support Apple Speak have their post's moderated while the posts of those who do Apple Speak are unmodified.

I am wondering why the Apple Speak posters are even engaged in the topic if they have no solution.

anyone ignoring the terms may be moderated.

THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION ASKED.

I am wondering why you can't understand that.

And name calling reveals more then you think.

ios_is_a_pain wrote:

And yet those who do not support Apple Speak have their post's moderated while the posts of those who do Apple Speak are unmodified.

I am wondering why the Apple Speak posters are even engaged in the topic if they have no solution.

Everyone here is subject to the same terms of use. You can use all the cheesy, snide little digs like “Apple Speak” or cool ade drinker, or Apple Fan, or whatever you want. Trust me, I’ve been here a long time and I don’t pay any attention to such jibes.

The plain fact is you do NOT understand how 2FA actually works. The whole system was designed to avoid reliance on the cellular telephone system and SMS. It is built around Apple’s own proprietary iCloud services system and uses that over secure encrypted internet channels for codes instead. Thus it works with any and every Apple device with an iCloud account and an internet connection. And it does NOT require anyone to own more than a single Apple device to use.

The requirement to register an SMS capable telephone number is for BACKUP only, in the event a trusted device or devices are not available. By default, under normal use, that telephone number is never used and has no function.

Apple senior support can't tell me how to do that, so if you can tell me how that would be great, problem solved (and i would recommend Apple pay you for providing the support that four of their support staff have not been able too).

I have one Ipad in a fixed location, one portable i take with me, neither has cellular, and i don't always have the phone with me when i using the Ipad. Both Ipad regularly request a verification code if i change a setting or down load an App....the request goes to the other Ipad (apple support advise i can somehow get this text to my phone, but don't always have the (android) phone with me anyway).

thanks

i don't mind putting in my password or getting the verification code from my email address, as i have access to these on both ipads.

dark66 wrote:

How to the two Authenticator off?????

If you already use two-factor authentication, you can no longer turn it off. Certain features in the latest versions of iOS and macOS require this extra level of security, which is designed to protect your information. If you recently updated your account, you can unenroll within two weeks of enrollment. Just open your enrollment confirmation email and click the link to return to your previous security settings. Keep in mind, this makes your account less secure and means that you can't use features that require higher security.

The solution is to avoid 2FA and use Microsoft /Google devices for official and business activity, and to give the Apple products to the kids for toy and social media since that is the age level Apple products are most suitable for.

I am insulted. I do not use either of my iPad Pros for business - I am retired. I also do not use social media, I refuse to do business with companies whose only income is derived from selling my information. But I do like to think that my IQ and general knowledge and education level is a bit beyond a child's age.

I do regularly use them to stream foreign language content which means you must be proficient in foreign languages.

Kindly read the ToU.

I reply to you’re reply, He isn’t doing anything wrong I suspect. I have exactly the same issue constantly asking to sign in and Apple have checked the setup on several occasions and found no faults.

2FA is a great idea used in many forms over many platforms, however Apple is by far the most intrusive and the most unreliable.

It has improved over the last few months but still fall far short of useable.

I cannot speak for other users, however I am a very high user of Apple Microsoft and android google and Linux most of which use optional 2FA, I use all of them but find Apples to be the most intrusive and time wasting especially since it only serves to protect Apple and our data stored on their system.

The biggest part of my daily events are based upon ethical security penetration and can only say that ANY security measure that requires any form of over air hand shake is by its very nature insecure. Any professional will tell you the truth offensive security is always the best and that starts with the device itself.

the phone in your hand has far more data than any of us want to be public, after all although we are discussing Apple here, we all use 3rd party apps google Microsoft and others on the Apple device, Remember 2FA protects them and in no way should be assumed to protect the source of all data which is the device in your hand.

I have read posts in regards to not having an Apple account hence no2FA but Apple devices are just paper weights without, The truth is if you buy an Apple device you have no choice but to suffer 2FA as Apple will not change or turn it off.

once again I mention the fact of the misleading setup system and constantly being bombarded to turn it on just goes to show the best solution is to say goodbye to Apple until they see sense and stop forcing systems on people that simply don’t work as they should.

The-wolf wrote:

The biggest part of my daily events are based upon ethical security penetration and can only say that ANY security measure that requires any form of over air hand shake is by its very nature insecure.

Which is why Apple doesn't use SMS on iOS or Mac devices.

Any professional will tell you the truth offensive security is always the best and that starts with the device itself.

So, you're suggesting that Apple doesn't have security professionals on staff? That they're just making this up?

Of course the device itself is the weak link in the chain. Always has been since the first IBM PC’s went on sale. Several years ago, Pew research published results of a survey of smart phone use and found that nearly half of all smart phone users did not use a device passcode at all. The FBI has had warnings on their web site about it too - pointing out that one of the driving forces in smart phone theft is access to the data on them, and has nothing to do with the physical hardware value at all. Thieves in large cities just steal smart phones in bulk, tossing the locked ones, and stripping data from the unlocked ones to be used in identity theft.

There is nothing online account servers can do about that. So all they can do is secure the data you choose to put on their systems.

Google uses SMS and email for their 2 factor codes. Most banks are using SMS. Apple’s end to end encrypted iCloud notification system is by far the most secure 2 factor system currently in use by anyone. But Apple cannot do a thing about people who don’t or won’t secure their own physical hardware.

And I simply don’t understand what people are doing that requires frequent, constant 2FA codes. I have 2 Macs, 3 iPads and 2 iPhones and I need a 2FA code maybe once every month or two.

And I simply don’t understand what people are doing that requires frequent, constant 2FA codes. I have 2 Macs, 3 iPads and 2 iPhones and I need a 2FA code maybe once every month or two.

Our friend has previously admitted major usage in weak signal areas.