How to turn off two factor authentication?

The sheer volume? There are hundreds of millions of users around the world with AppleIDs using 2FA since it is required for iCloud Keychain, messages in iCloud, home kit, Apple Pay, etc.

A relative handful of internet posts is not even a drop up in the bucket relative to the number of people using it, apparently without complaint.

Once again, a clear example of the arrogant, haughty, responses from this group.

Maybe, before making any more demeaning remarks to users, YOU should take the time to understand the problem and/or provide help, rather than deceitful, shallow remarks denigrating users suffering with this ill-conceivable, poorly implemented, system of 2FA.

Based upon the shear volume of negative feedback, you'd think maybe the light would go on, but apparently the magnitude of your pomposity overwhelms any light that might shine.

Someone sure had a plateful of thesaurus this morning.

There is no solution to turning off 2FA that we can provide. The question in play has been asked and answered numerous times.

Let me try boldface for this next bit.

All the help possible form this community has been offered.

Apple does not change policy here. Apple will not debate or update policy here.

This is not our rule. We abide by the same terms and conditions you do.

hAltonJones wrote:

"Before you start making more misstatements, you should take the trouble to learn more about how it works."

How was I wrong? You don't need two devices in hand to use 2FA. Saying so is a misstatement.

YOU should take the time to understand the problem and/or provide help, rather than deceitful, shallow remarks denigrating users suffering with this ill-conceivable, poorly implemented, system of 2FA.

I did provide the only help possible in these user-to-user forums: a link to the documentation on how to make it work.

If you know of something addition that might help the person to whom I replied, rather than to remonstrate me, help them. Show me how you think it should be done.

Here's how you were and still are wrong.

The "customer" said he/she was under the impression that such was the case. "If" the customer is wrong (although I thought - by definition - the customer was always right), then isn't it incumbent upon you to help that customer understand the problem? Isn't that the sine-qua-non of this forum??? Surely your purpose isn't to insult people who have - for better or worse - expressed a hopeful confidence in Apple products?

I noticed after my initial remark, some P.R. expert made a snarky remark about using a thesaurus. Is that your idea of "help"? For that person that apparently had to scurry to the dictionary, I apologize for using words that were apparently beyond his/her grasp; in the future, I'll try and dumb-it-down. But to provide you with a simple one-sentence answer to your question...

"You were wrong in not attempting to listen to a users needs and by demeaning that person for not having your self-perceived level of divine insight."

One iShark threw me an insult, advised that Android has no 2FA, which I followed and have not look back since. Not having to deal with that annoying protocol saved me a lot of blood. I hope everyone follows. Thanks, iSharks! 😁

hAltonJones wrote:

Here's how you were and still are wrong.

The "customer" said he/she was under the impression that such was the case. "If" the customer is wrong (although I thought - by definition - the customer was always right), then isn't it incumbent upon you to help that customer understand the problem? Isn't that the sine-qua-non of this forum??? Surely your purpose isn't to insult people who have - for better or worse - expressed a hopeful confidence in Apple products?

I noticed after my initial remark, some P.R. expert made a snarky remark about using a thesaurus. Is that your idea of "help"? For that person that apparently had to scurry to the dictionary, I apologize for using words that were apparently beyond his/her grasp; in the future, I'll try and dumb-it-down. But to provide you with a simple one-sentence answer to your question...

"You were wrong in not attempting to listen to a users needs and by demeaning that person for not having your self-perceived level of divine insight."

You do understand, don't you, that this is a user-to-user forum? To date, Apple hasn't participated.

Also, I spent twenty years in retail (none of it for Apple). The only people who say "the customer is always right" are customers.

Yes, I understand Apple hasn't participated, however, Apple sanctions its existence. Surely, you're not suggesting Apple encourages or even condones snarky demeaning remarks from its "volunteers"?

And with all due respects to your "retail" past-life, customers are clearly NOT the only people who say that. As a former owner of software company with a tech-support department, my customers were always right, even when they weren't. I think your statement suggests that you may not have a strong understanding of the concept behind the customer is always right. It's really not intended to be a "literal interpretation".

I'm sure you guys are doing the best you can. Consider doing better.

hAltonJones wrote:

I'm sure you guys are doing the best you can. Consider doing better.

As you seem to have an idea how it should be done, I look forward to seeing you volunteer your time to help people. I'm always interested in seeing how other people approach things.

Best of luck.

There's the first clue someone might be starting to understand. If you don't appreciate the "personal attacks", try a little empathy. Put yourself in the customer or user or whatever you call us. We most certainly do not appreciate the personal attacks. And they have been bountiful.

I don't call you anything - I am a customer, user, or whatever - exactly like you. With one exception: My main purpose here is to help others, I rarely post a question.

You are an anonymous online poster looking for free help. You can also contact Apple support and may have to pay for the advice or repair.

We are volunteers.

We do not work for Apple.

We are not Apple support.

We do not get paid.

You are not our "customer". You are an anonymous online user that is asking us for free help and, quite often, displays an attitude if you get a (truthful) answer you do not like.

So, consider the above and the time we invest without asking for anything except a thankful reply that we are trying to help you.

And, I am done here.

Surely, you're not suggesting Apple encourages or even condones snarky demeaning remarks from its "volunteers"?

We are all subject to the same rules. Each of us have had content removed by the hosts for violating the terms.

my customers were always right, even when they weren't.

Impossible standard to hold online.

Feelings of entitlement and TLDR have ruined that concept in a public space like this.

99% of the contributions to this 90+ page discussion have been about Apple Policy. Discussing Apple Policy, including how they run the site is not permitted. Their yard, their rules.

Why? Why not? Don't you know who I think I am? I'm outraged. No, seriously, I am really outraged. I will move me and all my friends to Android, just watch me.

The technical support question asked was answered correctly on page 1.

To be clear, the question asked was How to turn off two factor authentication?

The correct answer was provided 12 minutes later and then recommended by Apple, along with a clickable link to the Apple article supporting the answer.

The discussion should have ended there.

Nobody here is my customer. I have no stake in their issue or them so while I’ll help when and where I can, they are not my customer. I don’t work for Apple. I receive no compensation for being here other than personal satisfaction of providing useful information when I can (and often, that information is not what the OP or others may want to hear, but that doesn’t change facts).

Again, users here do not speak for Apple. They speak for themselves. If they violate the TOU, a moderator will take action and edit or delete their posts. But beyond that, people’s voice here is their own, not Apple’s.

'using a Google voice number as one of your trusted numbers'......so IOS relies Google to cover a flaw in IOS processes.

That is so funny on all levels.... maybe they could as Google to fix IOS for them.

Yes they can. You don’t need a cellular connection at all to receive Apple 2FA codes. All you need is an internet connection, which can be a cellular data internet connection, or any internet connection.

Apple 2FA codes by default are sent as Encrypted iCloud Notifications over an end to end encrypted internet connection to any Apple device you have as a trusted device (be it iPhone, iPad, iPod touch or Mac) and which has an internet connection.

People who own no other Apple device then a Mac can readily use 2FA with their AppleID.

And what’s wrong with using any other telephone number you want to as a backup contact number? That just makes sense to always register a fail-safe backup voice or SMS number, and a google voice number certainly fills that bill.

but you need two devices, one to put the password in, one to receive the 2fa number (be that cellular or wifi).....so even if i remove the second device, the 2fa then goes by SMS to my phone, which cannot be removed. Already been through this with Apple tech support, and they have no solution.