How to turn off two factor authentication?

Spacious wrote:

and yet, the very fact that you need to have ' a landline and Google Voice number as back ups' and demonstrates that people need to ensure they have 2FA workarounds and 2FA IS the problem. Basically without a secondary 'device' anyone with 2FA imposed upon them risks losing access to their Apple account.

No, it means I take security for my account seriously. I also leave a photocopy of my passport with a trusted friend when I travel outside the country. Having multiple trusted devices is not a "workaround". It's a back up.

The-wolf wrote:

I wasn’t aware that issues cannot be raised here, from my understanding of an independent forum surely this would be the place to raise issues that cause concerns.

This is not an independent forum. It's an Apple owned and run forum.

'Back up', 'work around', whatever the label you want to give it.....multiple devices are still required for Apple accounts forced to have 2FA.

2FA has impinged on the functionality of devices and introduced usage restrictions undisclosed at point of sale.

Spacious wrote:

'Back up', 'work around', whatever the label you want to give it.....multiple devices are still required for Apple accounts forced to have 2FA.

The two phone numbers are in case I completely lose access to all of my devices (i.e. my house burns to the ground). That wouldn't be Apple's fault. Having all of my Apple devices as trusted is just easier but not necessary.

Having a back up or a plan b is what adults do.

2FA has impinged on the functionality of devices and introduced usage restrictions undisclosed at point of sale.

I (and most people who've bother to learn how to use 2FA) have zero loss of functionality and zero restrictions. At point of sale, you weren't required to sign up for 2FA.

And who are you or who is Apple to force me or anyone elese to use this usless and rbish shh"feauture" even if I or we don't want it ? Did you just said that if I spend a fortune for a new Apple device I am beign forced by Apple to do something that I don't want to ? And one more thing : if I consider and know that only a one step authentication like a password is enough for me, then I know that I will not need this two step authentication !

I don't need Apple to tell me what I need and to force me use to it ! Next time I'll buy something, bbye Apple. Cheers !

.multiple devices are still required for Apple accounts

Not required.

Making up facts to further your point weakens your point.

It's understood you do not like 2FA. You re entitled to not like it. You're not entitled to rant here, making up facts.

newst21 wrote:

And who are you or who is Apple to force me or anyone elese to use this usless and rbish shh"feauture" even if I or we don't want it ? Did you just said that if I spend a fortune for a new Apple device I am beign forced by Apple to do something that I don't want to ? And one more thing : if I consider and know that only a one step authentication like a password is enough for me, then I know that I will not need this two step authentication !

I don't need Apple to tell me what I need and to force me use to it ! Next time I'll buy something, bbye Apple. Cheers !

And you don’t get to dictate to any company how they secure access to their online services. You chose to use Apple online services, but they have every legal and ethical right to set the rules for how the data you electively store on their system is accessed. If you don’t like a companies rules for access, don’t use that companies online services.

What is the problem with you band of petty people? Why couldn't you simply say, "Not required"? Why do you have to tag every post with some childish dig at the person who (like me) was admittedly dumb enough to hope to get help in this forum.

If Apple's people are indeed watching, what's wrong with them that they can't give you a little guidance on how to treat people with some adult style civiliity? I blame Apple for allowing this nonsense to continue. Now, on the other hand, if that's Apple's policy, i.e., to offend its users, I guess I'm not allowed to bring it up. My bad.

(Do you win extra brownie points every time you take a cheap shot at a customer?)

hAltonJones wrote:

What is the problem with you band of petty people? Why couldn't you simply say, "Not required"? Why do you have to tag every post with some childish dig at the person who (like me) was admittedly dumb enough to hope to get help in this forum.

If Apple's people are indeed watching, what's wrong with them that they can't give you a little guidance on how to treat people with some adult style civiliity? I blame Apple for allowing this nonsense to continue. Now, on the other hand, if that's Apple's policy, i.e., to offend its users, I guess I'm not allowed to bring it up. My bad.

(Do you win extra brownie points every time you take a cheap shot at a customer?)

So making up facts to further an argument is civil?

The community is here to provide help with using Apple products. Help requires accuracy and truth.

When posts state facts that are incorrect, it's within the context of the community to provide the truth. Multiple devices are not required for using 2FA. That is a common misconception.

Apple is indeed "watching" and if I, or any other volunteer, are deemed to have ignored the terms, our posts will be removed.

Exactly my point of view ! If I don't like being forced by Apple to use this, I will not buy Apple products anymore. Goodbye Apple ! You are so right ! But though, I don't think you understand what's the real thing here. You already have a device using the online services and guess what : suddenly you are forced to keep and use something that you could've turn off before because Apple is forcing you to. And it's pointless because the user should decide if he need it or not accordingly to the data sensitivity it's being stored to it's account(the user knows that not Apple). As for how the data is stored by Apple and accessed, it's not the user's concern how a company stores data and what security protocols are being used by that company as the data is encrypted anyways for sure(it must be) and it's safely stored to that companies servers. So of course no one dictates to a company how to secure access to the data stored to it's servers but every user has the right to decide how to use the services provided by that company(Apple in this case) to access that data : the users own data !

newst21 wrote:

And it's pointless because the user should decide if he need it or not accordingly to the data sensitivity it's being stored to it's account(the user knows that not Apple).

Totally, 100% disagree with this statement. The company offering the online service is legally liable for the data, whether you care about that for your individual data or not. So yes, every company offering online services has every right to say how you access the data you choose to put on their service. The user has no say in that, nor should they. Their only choice is whether to use that service, or not.

Do you get to dictate to your bank how you access your accounts, or your physical storage in their vault? Of course not. Do you get to dictate how you access your tax records with a private tax services company? No, of course not. You choose to use their services and store data in their systems. They have every, 100% right to say how you login and access that data.

This whole concept that users get to dictate security settings for their data that they voluntarily choose to put on public or private company online services is ridiculous. The company has always been the one responsible for the data, so they have always been the one setting the rules and procedures for access to that data you choose to put on their systems.

Yeah it is your data. If you don’t want to deal with security and keep it purely in your control. - DON’T put it on any public or private companies web servers! The moment you choose to do so, you are subject to the rules of the company storing it and providing access to it via your online login ID.

This is not an off topic debate. It is about how to turn off the two factor authentication ! And now that we all know that Apple will not let you choose if you want this or not, It's about the fact that you can't turn off the tow factor authentication. Because Apple forces you not to. Where were you? And how can you say you can choose to use this service, or not, if you can't turn it off? You have the only choice to use it or to bin your Apple if you don't want it ? If that's what you mean then thanks anyway. Or is it a way to turn it off and you're not sharing it? Cheers !

Ok so you don't get to deal with how to login to a bank account or things like that. But you also have more choices for login like using a fingerprint or a code or a password or maybe both. But then we are here at our 2FA. Is there a way to turn it off or you must stop using your Apple device if you don't want to use the tow step authentication ? Is there a way to choose some other login options or is this how you choose to use it or not? You either keep your device or not? That's not so good is it? Cheers !

I’m not sure what your problem is as I have said clearly that I have fixed my issues with 2FA after many months.

My comments are in regards to another post on here from someone having the problems I had.

I don’t see how voicing my own experience is in anyway against the terms of this forum.

throughout this discussion I have seen many useful suggestions and I have received some rather scathing remarks from volunteers.

You keep saying Apple aren’t here and yet how dare I mentioned any downfalls in Apple service or care to its customers.

So. Volunteer i ask the question apart from feedback or support, just how does one complain to Apple about an issue?

Why is the information about 2FA needed to be on to use devices to their Advertised specifications not mentioned in any sales platform?

why when there are issues with 2FA is there no alternative?

As I keep saying I no longer have a problem with 2FA but sympathise with those that still do I have posted how I solved my problems so I’m posting positive comments too.

Scathing remarks from the volunteers serves no purpose and only reinforces the general attitude of Apple can’t possibly be wrong and how dare anyone say otherwise.

perhaps if you actually read the post fully before deciding to snap back, you would see the whole story.

This is not a place for arguments it’s supposed to be a place for answers,

So my answering a post saying I understand someone else’s problem is hardly against the rules and I’m clearly not being untrue when I say no complaints department, so again no breach of the rules.

instead of scathing remarks why aren’t you escalating the issues people are raising here and actually helping to solve them?

As for asking why Apple does what it does is again NOT against the rules and if I ask a fair question, it’s not unreasonable to expect an answer or at least an admission of don’t know.

At least I had the guts to say I have fixed my 2FA and now I’m ok with it, but volunteers on here will not accept that Apple are very poor at any explanation of their actions, many of which effect millions of users.

Dare I post a comment on this without being attacked again by the volunteers?

I think the point overall is the way in which this system was and is imposed upon people,

2FA when working properly is an extra layer of security for Apple.

However the point that keeps being ignored here is the fact that this system is not mentioned as compulsory in any sales or marketing. Your statement of don’t use Apple online completely destroys the point of buying it in the first place. An Apple device with no account is a car with no keys.

in order to use any Apple device to its advertised specifications 2FA must be on.

So your argument doesn’t hold water.

I own and use many Apple devices and have done so for many years so I’m not against Apple or 2FA but I am like most on here unhappy with its implementation and lack of any pre sales warnings.

2FA when it works is fine, however when it’s not it ruins the Apple experience altogether.

There is absolutely no help for this online or via support and some volunteers on here just add to the problems.

In one breath it’s not Apple moderated next it is so instead of putting people down Escalate the issues so the problems get fixed.

im sorry to all the good volunteers who do actually help here, but a few are losing this forum it’s good reputation and credibility.