How to turn off two factor authentication?

Msoule09 wrote:

Seriously I can not turn it off that’s insane my old iPhone is shattered I never plugged it into a computer with iTunes I have pics from october 31 2019 to may 20 2020 I need to get but can’t because I have no way to type my old pass code in or see a two factor authentication on that device

2FA has nothing to do with accessing your device to make a backup or transfer data to a computer. Your issue has nothing to do with 2FA. Once a device is damaged or broken, it will almost always be impossible to backup data. Backups, as always, need to be made and kept up to date before the device is lost, stolen, damaged or breaks.

You must have a working display to connect to iTunes the first time and trust the device. Nothing to do with 2FA.

damaxco wrote:

This is really irritating apple. It is MY DECISION to turn off your stupid 2 factor authentication not yours.

Did you exercise that decision within the 14 days offered by Apple when you enrolled?

At the first opportunity I will switch to android system

Ok.

damaxco wrote:

This is really irritating apple. It is MY DECISION to turn off your stupid 2 factor authentication not yours. At the first opportunity I will switch to android system

You may think it’s your decision, but you’re wrong. Legally, Apple has every right to require it for access to the data you’ve chosen to store on their hardware using their online services.

The only decision you get to make, about any security requirements with any online services provider, is whether you choose to use a service or not. If you do choose to use a service provider’s online service, the act of choosing to use their services means you are agreeing to and are bound by their access security requirements and policies.

I have no issues with your posts OrangeSun and appreciate your posts and the tone with which you discuss things. My last post was a response to damaxco.

Damaxco and several others are operating under the mistaken assumption that they somehow have some legal right or control over how companies secure the online data they host. While it is indeed the users data and when just held by them they can secure it (or not) as they wish. But the moment anyone chooses to store their personal data on some third party online storage service, they do not have any legal or inherent right to dictate how that third party secures their hardware hosting your data.

The company hosting the service that stores anyone’s data has every legal right (and I would argue the ethical responsibility) to ensure whatever level of secure access to the data they feel is an appropriate balance of security and convenience.

There is no such thing as convenient security. Convenience of access and security lie at opposite ends of a spectrum. The challenge for every online service provider is to decide what the balance point in between those extremes is acceptable to them (a decision which includes considerations of liability for storing people’s personal data). Apple has decided that for certain services (Apple Pay, iCloud Keychain, messages in iCloud, Home Kit, etc) use of 2FA and a minimum rules password are required to secure the login ID for the online service hosting the data for those user services. And that is 100% within their legal right to require that.

The only right a user has is to choose to not use an online service who’s security requirements and policies they disagree with. But they don’t get to set the rules for how anyone accesses that provider’s hardware and service.

Depending on the device you are using and if 2FA is enabled, you should be able to sign in and get the 2FA code on another trusted device or on the device your using.

older devices require putting the password followed by the 6 digit code

format : password123456 no spaces

once you’ve authenticated the device all should be ok

Sounds like you’re facing the same problems I originally had with 2FA,

when it works it’s great and when it doesn’t it’s a pain.

have you updated to the latest iOS? I had all these issues for months until I reset my password on Apple account since then it’s worked ok.

If you’ve had 2FA for more than 2weeks you can’t turn it off.

Been there but 2FA is for your Apple account and ID not the devices.

I do agree that you should be able to disable it, however after all the problems I had I hated it and Apple for forcing me to use it.

Now it’s fixed and working it’s ok and obviously more secure.

Read back a way you will find out that you can’t get rid of it.

make sure you’re IOS is updated reboot the phone and hopefully after you sign in and set device as trusted you shouldn’t be bothered so often

I use ICloud and OneDrive on many Apple products even Microsoft 365 and teams without any issues.

If your locked out of OneDrive it’s possibly the Microsoft account with the issue.

2FA from Apple is only for your Apple account and ID and does not effect the device.

Not sure I totally agree with this but I do take your point.

there are some very helpful volunteers here but unfortunately there are a few that are very condescending.

I do agree that they delete any anti Apple posts. Then they fall behind the baffling wall of rules and terms obviously written by Apple

Apple don’t take complaints or criticism. Which is a sad situation as it falls far short of great customer service, But hey we all bought into the Apple dream and now we’re stuck with the nightmares.

I do agree that they delete any anti Apple posts. Then they fall behind the baffling wall of rules and terms obviously written by Apple

You have a tenuous relationship with the truth and accuracy. Not sure what is baffling about DO NOT. Why would anybody but Apple write the rules and terms for their community? Your statement is silly.

Volunteers do not remove posts. Volunteers have no ability to remove posts. Volunteers are subject to the same terms and conditions as anybody who participates. If our contributions are deemed to violate those terms, we will be treated as anybody else here. If I have been condescending as you accuse, I will have those comments removed.

Apple don’t take complaints or criticism

That is your point of view and it is inaccurate.

Apple allows constructive criticism about the features of their products. Whether they allow complaints here is moot.

They will not respond to anything that is not a technical support question. So one can "complain" here if you wish, but no resolution or answer will be offered. You are shouting in to the wind. The only advocated path for saying anything to Apple is the Feedback link.

That you may be angered by this, frustrated by this, find this to be inadequate is not anything we can resolve for you. Complain all you wish, as this discussion has allowed... you will not get a solution here.

Screaming at us solves nothing. Insulting us solves nothing. Misleading others about our job here solves nothing.

Apple does not allow rants and Apple does not allows discussions about Apple Policy or how they run this site. Those are not my rules and I have no ability to enforce them.

I’m not ranting about anything, however your comments about Apple and constructive criticism I find hard to accept.

Apple have nothing more than a feedback system or a service advisor and absolutely no official way to complain.

so again no misunderstanding over truth or belief just cold hard facts.

I agree about the t&cs but again we have detracted from the fact of this being a tech forum.

my comments were in reply to another user and not in regards to the forum itself.

as I said before there are many helpful volunteers here whom try to help and resolve issues, unfortunately there are a few that feel they are to important to care and perhaps a little too biased over Apple politics and policies to truly understand the issues that many are here to get a resolution too.

I had many many problems with 2FA to the point of not using any of my devices, This was resolved for me by another level 1 after months of anguish.

So in fact the forum works all I’m saying is it could be better if criticism was accepted and then using the forum to help escalate problems rather that the many derogatory remarks I have received from a few volunteers.

Ok you seem to misunderstand my comments, I’m not angry with anyone here.

I have only commented again about the lack of any actual way to formally complain.

As for writing to Apple, I have already politely asked about complaint escalating and as yet a somewhat expected no reply.

So I’m not angry just looking for answers and as usual with Apple or anything associated with it no answers are forthcoming.

I have resolved my 2FA issue and I have helped others to do the same.

So I think you are looking in the wrong direction over anger.

Before you harp on about civility, you should perhaps re read your comments to myself and several other users on here.

Just because we are not Apple Droids doesn’t mean we command any less respect.

most of the volunteers on here are truly great and supportive so it’s as always a minority problem.

We are not able to escalate anything. We are users like you, just have been here longer. As for accepting criticism, we have nothing to do with that.

Apple owns the site > they get to make the rules > any post immediately becomes Apple’s property to do with as they wish (read the rules).

Apple has decided that this should be a strictly technical forum and enforces their rules. Again, has nothing to do with any volunteers except for one thing: we do not appreciate abuse which we encounter almost daily. Posters incorrectly assume they are addressing Apple.

I required about five two facto authentications just to get to this point.

Each time I clicked the button that said I trust my device and Apple lied that I would not need TFA next time. I do not like being lied to on such a constant basis.

I would like to switch out of Apple but I can only transfer my data with two factor authentification. That looks to be an appalling monopolistic restraint of trade. I am amazed that it is legal.

I totally agree with you about two factor identification. It sucks and so do Apple’s monitors for removing my earlier comment which said the same thing. Apple has no reason nor right to force this on its customers.