Infographic face missing Mail and Messages complcation

I have discovered that on my new series 4 with Infograph (I have not tried any other face) not all my email notifications come through when scrolling down fro the top of the watch screen. I get sms, WhatsApp, etc but limited email. However when I go to mail after going to app in dock all my emails are there. My previous series watch did not have this issue. Am I missing something in a setting etc or is this new in the latest version OS??

Ridiculous! They need to get these up there asap. I am sure I am not alone when I say that I am sure others, like me, rely on having email and messages on the face.. and I want to use the new faces..... UV Index is not more important than communications.

I am relieved to hear that the omission of mail and message complications is an oversight that will be corrected. I have the message complication on everyone of the watch faces that I use. I really like the infogrsph faces but that are not as useful to me without the message complication.

XTopherM - I'm sure you're right - on all points. But based on your theory, it still seems odd to me that the two 'headline' new modular faces are inconsistent in the complications they cannot show. Specifically, if the list in the link above remains correct then it looks as if the new Infograph Modular face cannot show 'Alarm, Digital Time, Monogram, Reminders, Stopwatch and Sunrise/Sunset' whereas the new Infograph face can.

I can't quite see why the circular complication 'slots' in the Infograph Modular face (which appear identical in format to those in the centre of the Infograph face) wouldn't be able to handle these. Or is it that this subset of complications can only be specified in the new corner 'slots' which are unique to the Infograph face? But then that doesn't make sense either because I have 'Stopwatch' set as a central circular complication on Infograph..but cannot option it at all for the circular complications in Infograph Modular. Odd.

Obviously 5.0.1 is out and it still not there. This is just frustrating. Each new release seems like nobody is actually stepping up at Apple and saying "Hey! What they heck, you did this dumb thing, resolve it now!" You know like before Steve Jobs passed. Very sad.

In a 1-5 scale of problems where 1 = device will be bricked, and 5 = spelling errors in a dialog, a few complications are about a 4. There are probably other issues which will be taking priority as MUST be in the next planned release package. Apart from an emergency release like 5.0.1 which was critical to resolve charging problems (potentially bricks devices) the schedule should be maintained, with a full test process Before it ships. A few missing complications is not a showstopper, doesn’t make the device unusable or corrupt data.

One thing you can be sure about. Steve Jobs would have fired anyone stupid enough to rush an untested build out of the door as a reaction to screaming and whining from users with an overinflated sense of American Entitlement.

Yeah, what a load of total rubbish. Might as well have just kept my series 1.

Still using the same face instead of the new ones. What a useless upgrade, expensive too. Get the mail and messages complications back and do it quickly. Idiots!

screaming and whining from users with an overinflated sense of American Entitlement.

Do you seriously want to go there...
Its great that you personally might not heavily rely on these missing complications like the rest of us but there is definitely entitlement to ALL PEOPLE who buy an expensive upgrade and find out that its actually a downgrade with a bunch of removed features. Yes we are entitled to not having features removed regardless of whether they need to be "reworked" or "recoded" of whatever BS you want to say.

Sonic_375, so you believe that features have been 'removed'? Just to be clear, could you list these features? - i.e. those features that exist on a Watch 1/2/3 but do not exist on/have been removed from a Watch 4, making this a downgrade? (This is obviously very different to Watch 4 having new, additional features/faces which do not have the full set of complications you were expecting).

Well, it depends on your perspective I guess. How much should a watch cost? How much are people willing to pay? Relative to conventional mechanical watches, Apple Watches are ludicrously cheap. It's mildly disappointing (as noted above by many) that some of the features we all expected are not there, but those in the know (again above) suggest that they will come. And at no additional cost.

Fair enough. Each to his own. I don't disagree that they should have been included, only with the degree of disappointment caused and with the false claim that features have been removed and the product downgraded. Characterise that as trolling if you wish.

I still dont understand why they removed complications.

Its not that they need to develop or modify the complications, all that probably needs to be Done is to define that the already existing complications can be added to this ”Face”.

Can someone try explain the reason for not allowing all complications on all faces?

b4ssebus wrote:

I just want the round ”home kit” Complication to go into one of the 3 ”round” center spots of the infographic screen. No idea why that should need any sort of modification.

So tell Apple using the feedback link already provided. They are the only ones who can add it.

As a premier and long standing member of your fan club, it would be an honor!!

Here's how I managed to get the latest and greatest:

Me: "But, how can I be on the Discussions forum and help people with their new devices, if I don't have a new device of my own to learn how to help them?"

Partner: "Just get it, you know you were going to buy it/them anyway!"

Only it's a win/win for us both, cuz I buy everything in pairs. We both get the latest and greatest!

4 months later but better late than never. It did not feel good to buy this watch when I did and I did not like having to swipe through faces to see messages/email etc. I had to move backwards. I will not buy early again. Lessons learned. Enthusiasm curbed.

For what it's worth, the macOS Mojave Dark Theme was overdue by a decade... I guess we are actually making progress with these things now.