CarPlay Disconnecting - iPhone XS Max

Dear all wise and all knowing Apple Community 🙂


I recently switched from my iPhone 7+ running iOS 12.0 to an iPhone XS Max running iOS 12.0.

I have a 2018 Audi S4 with the latest firmware from Audi.


With the switch to the XS Max, seems that my Apple CarPlay will get into a cycle of disconnecting and reconnecting

every 30 seconds or so.


I tried reverting back to my 7+ and works fine.


1. Siri is enabled.

2. The USB Lockout is turned off on the XS Max. The 7+ had the lockout turned on

but made no difference in the XS Max toggling on or off.

3. Swapped the cables to the one in the box of the iPhone XS Max and USB ports

in the car. This had no impact on the XS Max recycling the connection. The 7+ is uneffected

business as usual.


Not sure if this is tied in with the authentication issue with the charger. I go over wired carplay and the 30

second increment is suspect as that is my lockout time on the phone.


Curious if others are facing this.


Thanks!


-ravilach

iPhone XS Max, iOS 12

Posted on Oct 2, 2018 11:50 AM

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Posted on Nov 28, 2018 2:05 PM

So I want to report back and say that so far getting this usb power meter and connecting the phone through it to the car has worked wonders. I haven’t had a power based disconnect since using it.


I have had it not want to work when starting the car once. I had to unplug the power meter and plug it back in a few seconds later and it started working again.


Once my phone connects to CarPlay, I don’t have any issues. I think I’ve driven for about 5 total hours since starting it. This solution is ok for a band aid but I expect way better from Audi/apple and I look forward to not needing to use this workaround.


For reference, 2018 Audi Q7/iPhone XSM 512


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Oct 21, 2018 11:24 AM in response to sapper17

"Tested 100% battery this morning, no disconnect. Got out of car maybe ran the battery down to 98%, got back in car, phone disconnected, but noticed as soon it was at 100% the phone stayed connected again. iPhone Xs in Audi S5 Sportback"



INTERSTING! Well, that's progress I guess... wonder if it is the amount of power the phone is trying to pull from the USB port... Apple should be able to fix this via an update I would think...

Nov 13, 2018 12:23 PM in response to QandnotU

No, the car is still a variable, your logic is flawed. As I already said if Audi's head unit maker used a chipset that is flawed and did not strictly adhere to BT standards and USB standards (assuming you connect with USB) it could indeed cause this problem. This thread and all of the others are predominantly Audi with some Kia thrown in for good measure. If the XS and XS Max are working on all other vehicles except these two models, how does that indicate it is solely and Apple problem?


I agree that people with the problem should report it but I also recommend that they not stop at the Tier 1 level, ask to be transferred to a supervisor or Tier 2, or Customer Service. Volunteer to assist in fixing it. Spend your time doing that instead of posting here.

Dec 9, 2018 6:45 AM in response to ravilach

It’s been a while since I have posted to this thread. I have a 2018 Audi Q7. A couple of months ago it seemed that Audis were the only cars impacted by this issue, but all the recent posts point to this being a widespread problem across many different car manufacturers. As impractical as it is, the only solution that has partially worked for me is to connect the phone when it is at 100% charge. I managed to have Waze remain connnected during a three hour road trip when the phone was fully charged. That said, as soon as a call came in and I answered it, the phone disconnected a minute later, reconnected itself 30m seconds after that, and then stayed connected for a couple of additional hours. Unfortunately, even at a full charge, it appears that the only way to keep some stabiilty is to run one application at a time. Impractical and unacceptable. Btw, I have found that if the phone is below 90%, there is no shot of it staying connected for any length of time, even if CarPay is sitting at the menu screen idle. A formal acknowledgement of this problem by Apple (with the prospect of an imminent fix) would at least help to mitigate the frustration of its customers who keep trying onerous troubleshooting steps which don’t correct the problem or who are resorting to spending additional money to purchase hardware such as USB voltage meters which may have negative long term effects on the battery.

Dec 18, 2018 12:55 PM in response to joscejrod

There may be more than one cause and hence more than one solution. On my XR power was not the problem - I put on a wireless charger and it didn't help at all. My problem was network connections coming and going (as they do when you're driving). I think iOS 12.1.1 is better, so check that you have that. Reset network settings to start clean there. VPN was causing trouble for me, so I disable that when driving. I also disable wifi while driving. With those done I get good behavior from CarPlay. Engaging airplane mode was a solid but impractical solution, but helped in diagnosis. Let us know if you find a solution.

Feb 10, 2019 6:29 AM in response to mmaletestinic

I thought my issues had been corrected by the 12.1.3 update and my XS Max was running carplay fine even on non Apple cables (however they are MFi certified).

Went on a long drive yesterday and it reset a couple of times.

However, I think reset is a mis-characterization of the issue.

It is related to notifications from Apple Maps.

I correlated the screen dropouts to the exact timing I received a "You are 14 mins from home" type notification from Apple Maps.

Therefore I may disable notifications from Apple Maps to see if that fixes the final issue.

However, this morning I see there is an available update to 12.1.4 so not sure what that now fixes.


2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit


Oct 15, 2018 8:23 AM in response to ravilach

Same exact problem. Switched from IPhone 7 Plus to IPhone XS MaX on my Audi Q7. Iphone 7 Plus running iOS 12 had no issues. IPhone XS Max keeps disconnecting exactly as others have described on this thread. I deleted my CarPlay profile on both my phone and vehicle and I tried erasing and resetting my networking settings. I had a glimmer of hope because my phone stayed connected for 20 minutes as opposed to 2-5 minutes. That was a short lived solution and now it is back to frequent disconnects especially if the Apple Maps or Google Maps navigation is engaged. Contacted Apple Support and they suggested that I do an Itunes restore to default and set my phone up as a new device (and not restore from iphone 7 backup). I have been delaying doing this because it is a pretty big hassle to rebuild the phone and I wanted to see if anyone else was having the issue. It appears some on this thread have tried resetting the phone and it did not resolve the problem. There are also quite a few Audi’s involved in this thread. Not sure how to proceed at this point, especially if resetting the phone does not correct the problem.

Oct 16, 2018 4:34 PM in response to TCPM_1

Same here. So after reading this thread, I uninstalled google maps to see if that was the issue. Worked fine on my commute to work, but 3 disconnects on the way home. Turned off WiFi and haven’t had another disconnect yet. Going to try without WiFi on tomorrow and see how that goes. This is beyond frustrating. Should we start a new thread since this one said “solved” previously when this is still a legitimate ongoing issue???

Oct 18, 2018 6:57 PM in response to Typh0nx

I checked with Audi and they pointed the finger at Apple. I find it hard to believe it’s on Audi’s end when previous phones and iOS 11 worked well. I seem to notice if I turn WiFi off it works better and then will disconnect as soon as WiFi turns back on or sometimes the phone automatically turns it back on too and it will disconnect. HIGHLY frustrating, would be great if Audi and apple could talk so this is fixed and we get the value out of these expensive items...

Oct 20, 2018 9:45 AM in response to ravilach

Exactly the same problem here. I’m in the UK with a 2017 S4 Avant. I noticed the the phone keeps going off and on charge, like the cable is being disconnected and reconnected. I also noticed a message in the MMI stating that the USB device has a power supply problem. Could the XS Max be drawing a little too much power from the car? All is fine when I connect it to a lighter socket charger.

Oct 21, 2018 7:55 AM in response to SpEe521

It sounds drastic but I’ve just bought a usb hub on Amazon with power delivery, along with a 10w usb cigarette adapter, I’m going to plug the usb hub into the car’s USB port, then wire the cigarette usb to the usb hub to provide extra power, then plug the iPhone into the usb hub. No idea if it’ll work but I’ll post when I find out 😆

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