Canon G11 RAW format not supported?

Terence ,your comment is unfounded and Dictatorial.

My comment was not to Apple it was to John Thawley , starting my comment with John should have been a clue !

I’d just like to see RAW support for the Canon PowerShot G11 !

And I’m considering my options.

Martin

The comment is neither unfounded - read the terms of Use. They describe exactly what this forum is - nor were they “dictatorial” - whatever that means.

I’d just like to see RAW support for the Canon PowerShot G11 !

Then posting here is not helping. Tell Apple what you want. Or don't. Whatever.

Regards

TD

Terence Devlin wrote:
The comment is neither unfounded - read the terms of Use. They describe exactly what this forum is - nor were they “dictatorial” - whatever that means.

They do, but that doesn't mean that Apple don't read what is on here, officially or otherwise. In fact IIRC there was a contribution here from the Aperture project leader just before Ap 2 was released.

I’d just like to see RAW support for the Canon PowerShot G11 !

Then posting here is not helping. Tell Apple what you want. Or don't. Whatever.

He can post here if he wants, and you can read it, or not. Whatever.

It would appear that this thread is off topic

In response to Jack's question Yes i am seeing the same

I was hoping for a little bit of common sense and possibly a link to a workaround, not a lecture on the pros and cons of RAW.

I have given up with Canons software life's too short so will hang on to the D-Lux3 till Apple and Adobe release a camera raw update

Jeremy

I never said that Apple don't read what's here, what I said was

They don’t promise to read anything here.

And yes, 18 months ago the Aperture team leader posted - what - three times? Is that what you base it on?

My point is simple: If you want Apple to add support for a Camera, tell Apple. There's a mechanism for doing that, and I pointed out.

I never for a moment suggested that he should not post here. I simply pointed out that it's not an effective way of achieving what he wants.

Some folks call that being helpful.

Regards

TD

Guy’s the Subject to the thread is Canon G11 RAW format not supported.

My reply is, wouldn’t it be nice to have Raw support for the canon Powershot G11 (as I have a G11) and use Aperture !
My reply was done with good grace and looking for like minded G11 users to see what they thought ?

Terence Davlin
I cannot see anything wrong in saying that, without some telling my in the small print of my user agreement this is not allowed !
I have also contacted the Aperture team about this issue

John Thawley
I’m sure you are a very good photography, I do not doubt that for nor minute, however I would like to use the functionality of the RAW fine tuning, so I can make my own mind up.

I reiterate, “ wouldn’t it be nice to have Raw support for the canon Powershot G11 in Aperture “ !

Regards
Martin

I cannot see anything wrong in saying that, without some telling my in the small print of my user agreement this is not allowed !

Where did I say it's not allowed? All I'm saying is that it's not an effective way to achieve what you want.

Regards

TD

Terence,
I have contacted the Aperture team today about RAW support.

I am also interested in other Canon G11 users views, and look forward to reading any that are posted.

Regards
martin

Okay, I take that to mean that you now agree that I never said that it was not allowed, then.

Thanks for the apology.

Regards

TD

Terence Devlin wrote:
Jeremy

I never said that Apple don't read what's here, what I said was

They don’t promise to read anything here.

And yes, 18 months ago the Aperture team leader posted - what - three times? Is that what you base it on?

Exactly. So someone at Apple read what was posted and took it seriously enough to respond.

My point is simple: If you want Apple to add support for a Camera, tell Apple. There's a mechanism for doing that, and I pointed out.

I never for a moment suggested that he should not post here. I simply pointed out that it's not an effective way of achieving what he wants.

You said that it is "pointless" to post here. Maybe it is and maybe not. We have no idea how much weight Apple give to feedback requests and how much to a large body of criticism voiced on their user-to-user forums. The evidence is that they don't give zero weight to this forum, so posting here has at least some point.

Guy’s once again the Subject to the thread is Canon G11 RAW format not supported.

My reply is, wouldn’t it be nice to have Raw support for the canon Powershot G11 (as I have a G11) and use Aperture !
My reply was done with good grace and looking for like minded G11 users to see what they thought ?

I’m amazed how the envious of the thread subject gets distorted so quickly and how egos of some are more important than the subject of the thread.

If A **e looked at this thread I’m sure it would amuse them.

Regards
Martin

Jeremy

Good, so you agree I never said he should not post here. Apology accepted.

Regards

TD

John Thawley wrote:
WHY would you shoot RAW with a G11? What's the point? Sorry..... I just don't see it....This is not a knock on the camera... it's a terrific little point n' shoot... but I challenge you to PROVE the advantage of shooting RAW over a high quality JPEG from this camera.

It can be just as important, if not more so, to shoot raw with a point-and-shoot, because of the limitations of the camera. I've already had the experience, the joy, of re-processing older P&S raw formats with newer versions of raw converters which do a better job of processing and de-noising, especially high-ISO P&S images. The result? Because you can always take advantage of the latest raw processing technology, you can continually give yourself better images than were possible with JPEGs from the camera firmware that stopped being updated soon after you bought the camera. If you had shot JPEG, you boxed yourself in with the processing, it's baked in, you're done, the noise processing is fixed, your images are trapped as they are, forever. With raw, your existing P&S images can +actually get better and better over time+ as you apply newer and more powerful raw processor software to those old files. Better tones, better color, and less noise as you upgrade your software, because raw processor software keeps advancing further and further ahead of the frozen-in-time JPEG-producing camera firmware.

Now, you said "high-quality JPEG" and on P&Ss that usually means "throw a lot of light at it." But the nature of a P&S is that it will often be used in non-ideal on-the-fly situations where lighting is not ideal, you are usually not going to be in a controlled studio. So your "high-quality" scenario may not always be achievable. When the camera can't cope enough on its own, then it's raw to the rescue.

Network 23,
Thanks for your very interesting and succinct posting regarding the usefulness of RAW format and processing with a point and shot namely the G11.

Reading your posting, I’m excited at the prospect of support becoming available !

Regards
Martin

I have a Canon S90, which (as the G11) has been available for about a month. However, I cannot process RAW (.CR2) files in Aperture. I get a file size of about 12M, which is correct. However, the pixel size is 252x192, which looks like a thumbnail. When I click on it , I get that message I hate -- "Unsupported Image Format".

I gather Aperture is a bit behind in supporting the new and popular S90 and G11.