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Macbook Pro 15" 2016 Battery Issues

The MAC was fully charged and plugged-in, went blank and would not power up. This happened once before a few months back, apple techs did SMC reset and NVRAM reset, and something else that took 30 minutes and was churning the fan at full speed, and then it started working normally and no defects were found.


This time I did SMC and NVRAM reset, say replace battery with 0% in the charge level, and Battery infor in system report is as under:


Model Information:

Serial Number: D867123B199HDWCA0

Manufacturer: SMP

Device Name: bq20z451

Pack Lot Code: 0

PCB Lot Code: 0

Firmware Version: 702

Hardware Revision: 1

Cell Revision: 3925

Charge Information:

Charge Remaining (mAh): 0

Fully Charged: Yes

Charging: No

Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 6369

Health Information:

Cycle Count: 421

Condition: Replace Now

Battery Installed: Yes

Amperage (mA): 0

Voltage (mV): 12944


How can it be fully charged and Amperage(mA) be zero? This is too early for battery to fail has on;y 421 cycles.


Posted on Sep 10, 2019 3:40 PM

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Posted on Sep 11, 2019 6:59 PM

Battery prices do vary slightly for different models. The difference you mention may be between the 13" and 15" models. While there are multiple free battery repair programs they can vary in specific qualifying details depending on the exact model laptop and the programs have various times limits (usually 3 or 4 years).


I forgot to mention that you can provide feedback to Apple here:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/


Hopefully the repair turn around will be on the earlier side. Good luck.

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Sep 11, 2019 6:59 PM in response to V1234W

Battery prices do vary slightly for different models. The difference you mention may be between the 13" and 15" models. While there are multiple free battery repair programs they can vary in specific qualifying details depending on the exact model laptop and the programs have various times limits (usually 3 or 4 years).


I forgot to mention that you can provide feedback to Apple here:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/


Hopefully the repair turn around will be on the earlier side. Good luck.

Sep 10, 2019 8:47 PM in response to V1234W

The battery condition is listed as "Replace Now". This means the battery has failed and needs to be replaced. Most likely if you run the Apple Diagnostics, it will confirm the diagnosis. Apple has multiple free repair programs involving batteries (some are not publicly acknowledged), so I would suggest taking the laptop to Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider to be examined.


Here is the current list of the publicly acknowledged Apple free repair programs:

https://support.apple.com/exchange_repair

Sep 13, 2019 8:42 AM in response to HWTech

I should ask them what the 795.00 was for, got MAC back with note saying returned unrepaired. But with new Battery, Keypad, Touch Bar and Shell.


Did power up with battery warning "Replace Now" gone, however had 0% charge and apparently not increasing after plugged being plugged-in.


Put MAC to sleep after 10 minutes battery started charging. Diagnostics say everything in normal.


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Sep 11, 2019 5:40 AM in response to HWTech

My only issue is that I have to wait 3 days to get a geniusbar appointment, and another 3 days to change the battery. When we use it for work, the loss of pay is going to cost me an arm and a leg.


If it is a wide spread issue, apple not giving priority appointments and turn around time makes me wonder if they really care about their customers.


I wonder why there is no class action against these non replaceable batteries and premature failure.

Sep 11, 2019 6:43 PM in response to V1234W

You could see if a local Apple Authorized Service Provider could do any better for you. Some AASPs will perform the repair in their own shops without the wait. Doesn't hurt to inquire. I would suggest acquiring a used computer which can be used for emergency purposes. Electronics do have a tendency to fail at the worst possible times. A lot of businesses retire really nice & powerful computers once the support contract runs out.


It is unfortunate Apple has chosen the path they have with these batteries as it does increase the repair costs and repair times. People can vote with their wallet by purchasing a different brand. I do this all the time. It isn't always easy, but I prefer to reward people & companies that attempt to do right by me even if their product isn't quite what I want.

Sep 13, 2019 5:28 AM in response to HWTech

Got an email from Apple yesterday AM, that the tech found hardware issues not found using diagnostics (yeah right) and needs another 795.00 to fix it, I asked to cancel the repair and return it.


Today got an email, saying repair completed and credit card has been charged.


Is apple **** bent on screwing customers?.


I am going to sledge hammer by MBP and put it on Youtube. My last apple purchase for life.


Never again.



Sep 13, 2019 6:34 AM in response to V1234W

V1234W wrote:

Got an email from Apple yesterday AM, that the tech found hardware issues not found using diagnostics (yeah right) and needs another 795.00 to fix it, I asked to cancel the repair and return it.

When a tech takes the laptop apart to perform a repair, techs do find issues which are not noticeable before taking things apart. It happens from time to time when I repair equipment no matter how careful I may examine a unit beforehand.


Today got an email, saying repair completed and credit card has been charged.

Did they charge you extra or did they charge you the original agreed upon price when you dropped the laptop off for the repair? It is possible Apple has completed the original repair as agreed upon originally.


Is apple **** bent on screwing customers?.

I am going to sledge hammer by MBP and put it on Youtube. My last apple purchase for life.

You should check to see if the laptop's battery has been replaced first. The laptop is most likely repaired if Apple is charging your credit card, although mistakes do happen.


Never again.

Definitely your choice and right.


Sep 13, 2019 8:49 AM in response to V1234W

Here is the battery info:


Model Information:

Serial Number: D869123N15PHDWCBQ

Manufacturer: SMP

Device Name: bq20z451

Pack Lot Code: 0

PCB Lot Code: 0

Firmware Version: 702

Hardware Revision: 1

Cell Revision: 3925

Charge Information:

Charge Remaining (mAh): 4969

Fully Charged: No

Charging: Yes

Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 6893

Health Information:

Cycle Count: 2

Condition: Normal

Battery Installed: Yes

Amperage (mA): 3879

Voltage (mV): 12432


How did they go from wanting 995.00 to fix issues, to returning product un-reparied, but ends up being repaired for free?


Sep 13, 2019 10:01 AM in response to V1234W

Since the Cycle Count on your battery is only 2, then Apple did replace the battery. It is possible they already had most of the work done when you canceled the repair and the time involved to undo everything would exceed what it costs for the battery replacement and they just gave it to you. A battery replacement is a very time consuming operation.


Enjoy your laptop.

Macbook Pro 15" 2016 Battery Issues

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