iPhone 11 - Siri not working with bluetooth helmet

I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the iPhone 11 Pro, and now Siri does not work anymore when being activated via the "voice command" button on my helmet's bluetooth headset.


Specifically - when I activate Siri using the headset, Siri gets activated correctly and asks "What can I help you with". But when I ask her anything (ex. "what time is it"), she first says "just a moment", then "hold the line please", eventually erroring out with a "Sorry, I'm having trouble with the connection. Please try again in a moment".


If instead, still with the helmet on, I activate Siri by tapping the Siri button on the phone, and then issue the "what time is it" command, she answers immediately.


I also tested with the first version of the AirPods, and Siri activates and responds just fine with those.


The phone is not in driving mode. It's using WiFi and the router is 3ft behind me. The issue is thus not a connection issue, but simply a nice big bug related to bluetooth.


I never had this problem with previous iPhone models. Is anyone experiencing similar issues?


A video showing the symptom is here:

https://logsat.box.com/s/f1970rnts64gs9c4lrzam5dkdn4968nb


Phone: IPhone 11 Pro

Headset - Sena 10c



iPhone 11 Pro

Posted on Sep 23, 2019 12:22 PM

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Posted on Sep 23, 2019 5:51 PM

Thanks - both an iPhone 8 and another 11 Pro worked (both iOS 13), so I kept insisting with troubleshooting. While rebooting the phone using the "usual" slider didn't help, I eventually tried using the "Settings - General - Shutdown" command and then turning it back on. This method of rebooting it was what eventually fixed the issue.


Odd...!

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Sep 23, 2019 5:51 PM in response to anypats

Thanks - both an iPhone 8 and another 11 Pro worked (both iOS 13), so I kept insisting with troubleshooting. While rebooting the phone using the "usual" slider didn't help, I eventually tried using the "Settings - General - Shutdown" command and then turning it back on. This method of rebooting it was what eventually fixed the issue.


Odd...!

Oct 7, 2019 1:11 AM in response to paulo.grego

I was having the same problem with Siri through my Freecom 4+ after upgrading to the release version of iOS 13 (including 13.1.2) on my iPhone X. After I said "Hey Siri", I received the acknowledgment tone. I then issued the command and after a lengthy pause she replied with an error message saying there was a problem with the connection and to try again later. Siri worked fine when the command was issued directly to the iPhone rather than through the Freecom mic inside my helmet. I used the Settings -> General -> Shutdown suggestion above and this fixed the problem.

Nov 21, 2019 8:03 PM in response to anypats

And it was a good suggestion. I would have thought the same if it hadn't previously worked for me. Restarting the phone definitely worked. There's no issue with the network, since siri works when you initiate from the phone itself. Even when you initiate from the helmet, you can see siri register your voice but words don't show, and then it says there's a network problem.

Oct 8, 2019 4:35 AM in response to ik8sqi

Darn it happened again. After several days of working just fine, out-of-the-blue this morning the same issue started occurring. I again tried switching back between issuing the commands via bluetooth (Siri kept repeating there was a problem with the connection) and issuing them via Siri by talking directly into the phone (it worked just fine). Also AGAIN forgetting the Sena bluetooth from the iPhone bluetooth settings, and doing a "removing all pairings" from the helmet didn't help.


What DID work again was doing a complete shutdown of the iPhone using the procedure described in the original post. This is clearly an iOS bug... FYI I went thru all Apple's updates these past weeks, and am now on iOS 13.1.2.

Oct 10, 2019 1:58 AM in response to ik8sqi

I'm getting this problem too with a Sena 10C after I upgraded my iPhone X to iOS 13. It all worked perfectly before upgrading. I've removed the device from the phone and re-added it and also upgraded the firmware on the Sena 10C to the latest version which is compatible with iOS 13. I needed to do this firmware upgrade in order for the Sena software to recognise the 10C headset from iOS13.

Oct 22, 2019 4:53 PM in response to ik8sqi

I had same problem with Cardo responding correctly to “Hey Siri” but Siri not responding. Was fixed by Resetting Network Settings on IPhone (XR). But does anybody else have problems with the microphone hearing the Cardo correctly, but not Siri correctly above 10 or 15 mph? Full face helmet, using the microphone that Velcro’s to the front inside part of the helmet. Very frustrating.


Dec 7, 2019 3:45 PM in response to ik8sqi

Same issue here using L1M in my helmet. Worked perfectly last IOS 12, "wait a moment.." messages started after IOS 13 update. Sometimes it still works, but it's an exception. If I pull my iPhone out of my pocket and use Siri from the device's microphone, everything works. BTW Siri could be improved a lot for drivers - for example allowing to unlock iPhone just saying pin in helmet.


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